So then Jews are the author of the Old Testaments... not God
So we follow the books of men, some Jewish some Catholic..not the word of God..how confusing...how arrogant ..to claim both the authority of God for the Bible when convenient and the Church when convenient.
So by your logic does the Pope have a Rabbi to guide him and the Catholic church for the old testament? ..
By the way didn't Jesus get in trouble for daring to teach from the scriptures with authority and not following the dictates of the Pharisees as the official scriptural interpreters?..
So besides being our Lord and Savior..Jesus was the first heretic ...it what he was charged with ..so it would make him the first Protestant..as in “protest” the religious authoritarians of his day
Catholics may have compiled what we have to day of scripture.
In music when someone composes a song, that person is the song “writer”. Sometimes a popular song will be rearranged and the new arrangement will be more popular than the original song version. The arranger is not the song writer, he is not the composer and lists himself or herself as the “arranger”.
The Catholic Church arranged the scriptures (New Testament) we have today, the authors were the apostles, actually the authors were those who heard the apostles speak and later recorded what they said. Apostles would travel from church to church telling their story of their memory of being with Christ The Lord. The other writings of the New Testament in large part are from letters written to churches from Apostles. We have to assume that the copies we have of those letter were copied from the originals. In all cases we assume that the Apostles were speaking as moved by the Holy Ghost. Since the Gospels and Epistles don't altogether agree with one another it is safe to say these scriptures were not written by God but by His inspired servants.
When the texts we have in our New Testament, that is the many varieties of The New Testament, were written there was no Roman Catholic Church, the Bishop in Rome had no more authority than other Bishops. After the Apostles died off there was a struggle for leadership, indeed there was no “one”, “Universal” church. There were many different churches each with differences from the next.
When Constantine Took control of the “Christian Churches” his council decided what would be “cannon” although they didn't use that word. From that point the universal or (Catholic) church grew in strength and spoke more or less with one voice. It was a new era for Christendom, a lot of what remains today traces back to that first council.
There are perhaps many writings of apostles and those that traveled with them that we don't have today that were destroyed in one of the various councils trying to decide what was of value and what was not of value to the Church.
I don't know what was left out but I do feel strongly that the church leaders of the third century did a good job at least as far as picking texts for scripture that were true. I can't vouch for their changes over the years, I don't like to argue over one or two words but like to take the text as a whole. this is because we can't possibly now know the origin of a word in many, perhaps most cases.
I read the scriptures given to us by the earliest councils of what we now call the Catholic Church but I don't use them to split hairs. The story of the Gospels, namely that the Son of Man was indeed The Son of God. That He lived among men and performed many good works and miracles and gave the keys of the kingdom to Peter to continue in His absence is enough for me.
I am not a Roman Catholic but I am grateful that they preserved what we have of the scriptures today. I wish they would have preserved more but I do like what we have.
Catholic compiled the Bible, both the Old Testament and the New Testament.
That’s why Catholics have a bigger and more complete Bible.
So then Jews are the author of the Old Testaments... not God
So we follow the books of men, some Jewish some Catholic..not the word of God..how confusing...how arrogant ..to claim both the authority of God for the Bible when convenient and the Church when convenient.
So by your logic does the Pope have a Rabbi to guide him and the Catholic church for the old testament? ..
By the way didn't Jesus get in trouble for daring to teach from the scriptures with authority and not following the dictates of the Pharisees as the official scriptural interpreters?..
So besides being our Lord and Savior..Jesus was the first heretic ...it what he was charged with ..so it would make him the first Protestant..as in “protest” the religious authoritarians of his day
The fallacy of the RC polemic is seen in the lack of RC answers to this. See also post 219