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To: delchiante
Quoted from the ‘how to pray the rosary instruction booklet:

I'm not a rosary expert and I'm not sure where you obtained what you obtained if you are not either. You can switch here to see the prayers and steps that newadvent.org provides for free distribution.

Do you have an alternative holy catholic apostolic Church that is on this planet in a real physical presence ? It cannot be any of the churches that came out of the Re-formation; they cannot unify and continually fragment into new denominations, sub-denominations, sects, etc. Church history is a great mystery. It seems to me if one denies the historical Church one denies Yeshua was the Messiah. He appointed the Apostles and founded the Church upon them, himself being the chief cornerstone. He delegated his authority to them. He prophesied And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

The book of Acts ends with Paul in Rome. John wrote Revelation but LORD knows the mystery of these last 19 centuries of history.

116 posted on 05/12/2014 5:59:08 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: af_vet_1981

A Catholic gave me two sets of rosary beads..it was in the packet.
Each set of beads had the instruction manual..

Those 15 promises are in that booklet and they were in the form that I posted ( without the parenthesis).. it included also the mysteries and how to...

and they actually had I,ME and My in them so I take that the publication is quoting our lady.. you made need to look up the Fatima folks as I don’t have the exact manual handy now..

But http://www.fatimacrusader.com/praytherosary/prayrosary1.asp
Appears to be the best duplicate I have seen..

And number one on that list is all I needed to read and contradict with her own son when He was tempted by satan..

A believer in the Word that became flesh has to reject those.. we can’t square serve Mary with only our Elohim will you serve..

The church may be sending out different ones to maybe change the promises from a ‘first person’ narrative with the My, Me, I..

If that is the case, that is man made deceit on top of this angel and light and her whoppers... 
And the lie gets mixed with scripture,so hey, it’s all good and ‘biblical’! Provides cover...almost like political calculations..

And to think that little children get these beads from authority figures and believe it as truth like they believe 2+2=4...

As for the true church which you asked about.. it is not a human organization you can belong to in the sense that one can belong to a church or sit in a pew at a particular church and be assured of the kingdom when we die.

the true church practices no lawlessness...

There are maybe hundreds(thousands?) of denominations because everyone has a subjective view of Truth and maybe even lawlessness..

And when they get into doctrinal disputes they splinter - hello reformation like you said..

We dont get to have disputes with our High Priest.. It’s His Way, His Truth,His Life..
We are bondservants from the slavery of sin.. He has redeemed us- no church,pastor, pope redeems..

He is the Son of the Living Elohim and upon that rock of Truth- The Son of the Living Elohim did build His church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it..

And the body of believers in the one true church, we have the Holy Spirit in us.
the kingdom should be reflected in each of our lives... We should be able to declare victory and walk in that victory over lawlessness every day.. we have the power to bind and loose today...

We have the mighty hand and outstretched arm of Our heavenly father as our defense.. His mercy and loving kindness for His beloved son, Joshua, as our salvation.
His true and Holy word as our instruction. And His grace and Holy Spirit as our comfort and support until the end, and in the end...

We have been given the same gifts the original apostles were given..
And they were never members of a roman catholic or protestant church..they only had Torah, and that Torah became flesh, and dwelt with them.

And none of them had beads and were told that their promises lie in reciting words or wearing them or holding them while praying..their hope was in the Son of the Living Elohim. Upon that rock of Truth His church is built. Not on his ‘mother’ and her promises..


118 posted on 05/13/2014 7:39:46 AM PDT by delchiante
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