Posted on 05/02/2014 12:28:06 AM PDT by GonzoII
Purgatory is in the Bible
This may well be the most common single question I receive concerning our Catholic Faith whether it be at conferences, via email, snail mail, or any other venue. In fact, I’ve answered it twice today already, so I thought I might just blog about it.
We’ll begin by making clear just what we mean by “Purgatory.” The Catechism of the Catholic Church teaches:
All who die in Gods grace, but still imperfectly purified, are indeed assured of their eternal salvation; but after death they undergo purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven (1030).
This seems so simple. Its common sense. Scripture is very clear when it says, “But nothing unclean shall enter [heaven]” (Rev. 21:27). Hab. 1:13 says, “You [God]… are of purer eyes than to behold evil and cannot look on wrong…” How many of us will be perfectly sanctified at the time of our deaths? I dare say most of us will be in need of further purification in order to enter the gates of heaven after we die, if, please God, we die in a state of grace.
In light of this, the truth about Purgatory is almost self-evident to Catholics. However, to many Protestants this is one of the most repugnant of all Catholic teachings. It represents a medieval invention nowhere to be found in the Bible. It’s often called “a denial of the sufficiency of Christ’s sacrifice.” It is said to represent “a second-chance theology that is abominable.” And most often the inquiries come from Catholics who are asking for help to explain Purgatory to a friend, family member, or co-worker.
A Very Good Place to Start
Perhaps the best place to start is with the most overt reference to a Purgatory of sorts in the Old Testament. I say a Purgatory of sorts because Purgatory is a teaching fully revealed in the New Testament and defined by the Catholic Church. The Old Testament people of God would not have called it Purgatory, but they did clearly believe that the sins of the dead could be atoned for by the living as I will now prove. This is a constitutive element of what Catholics call Purgatory.
In II Maccabees 12:39-46, we discover Judas Maccabeus and members of his Jewish military forces collecting the bodies of some fallen comrades who had been killed in battle. When they discovered these men were carrying sacred tokens of the idols of Jamnia, which the law forbids the Jews to wear (vs. 40), Judas and his companions discerned they had died as a punishment for sin. Therefore, Judas and his men,
… turned to prayer beseeching that the sin which had been committed might be wholly blotted out He also took up a collection… and sent it to Jerusalem to provide for a sin offering. In doing this he acted very well and honorably Therefore he made atonement for the dead, that they might be delivered from their sin.
There are usually two immediate objections to the use of this text when talking with Protestants. First, they will dismiss any evidence presented in II Maccabees because they do not accept its inspiration. And second, they will claim these men in Maccabees committed the sin of idolatry, which would be a mortal sin in Catholic theology. According to the Catholic Church, they would be in Hell where there is no possibility of atonement. Thus, and ironically so, they will say, Purgatory must be eliminated as a possible interpretation of this text if youre Catholic.
The Catholic Response:
Rejecting the inspiration and canonicity of II Maccabees does not negate its historical value. Maccabees aids us in knowing, purely from an historical perspective at the very least, the Jews believed in praying and making atonement for the dead shortly before the advent of Christ. This is the faith in which Jesus and the apostles were raised. And it is in this context Jesus declares in the New Testament:
And whoever says a word against the Son of man will be forgiven; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come (Matthew 12:32, emphasis added).
This declaration of our Lord implies there are at least some sins that can be forgiven in the next life to a people who already believed it. If Jesus wanted to condemn this teaching commonly taught in Israel, he was not doing a very good job of it according to St. Matthews Gospel.
The next objection presents a more complex problem. The punishment for mortal sin is, in fact, definitive self-exclusion from communion with God and the blessed (the definition of Hell) according to Catholic teaching (see CCC 1030). But it is a non-sequitur to conclude from this teaching that II Maccabees could not be referring to a type of Purgatory.
First of all, a careful reading of the text reveals the sin of these men to be carrying small amulets or sacred tokens of the idols of Jamnia under their tunics as they were going in to battle. This would be closer to a Christian baseball player believing there is some kind of power in his performing superstitious rituals before going to bat than it would be to the mortal sin of idolatry. This was, most likely, a venial sin for them. But even if what they did would have been objectively grave matter, good Jews in ancient timesjust like good Catholics todaybelieved they should always pray for the souls of those who have died for thou [O Lord], thou only knowest the hearts of the children of men (II Chr. 6:30). God alone knows the degree of culpability of these sinners. Moreover, some or all of them may have repented before they died. Both the ancient Jews and Catholic Christians always retain hope for the salvation of the deceased this side of heaven; thus, we always pray for those who have died.
A Plainer Text
In Matthew 5:25-26, Jesus is even more explicit about Purgatory.
Make friends quickly with your accuser, while you are going with him to court, lest your accuser hand you over to the judge, and the judge to the guard, and you be put in prison; truly I say to you, you will never get out till you have paid the last penny.
For Catholics, Tertullian for example, in De Anima 58, written in ca. AD 208, this teaching is parabolic, using the well-known example of prison and the necessary penitence it represents, as a metaphor for Purgatorial suffering that will be required for lesser transgressions, represented by the kodrantes or penny of verse 26. But for many Protestants, our Lord is here giving simple instructions to his followers concerning this life exclusively. This has nothing to do with Purgatory.
This traditional Protestant interpretation is very weak contextually. These verses are found in the midst of the famous Sermon on the Mount, where our Lord teaches about heaven (vs. 20), hell (vs. 29-30), and both mortal (vs. 22) and venial sins (vs. 19), in a context that presents the Kingdom of Heaven as the ultimate goal (see verses 3-12). Our Lord goes on to say if you do not love your enemies, what reward have you (verse 46)? And he makes very clear these rewards are not of this world. They are rewards from your Father who is in heaven (6:1) or treasures in heaven (6:19).
Further, as St. John points out in John 20:31, all Scripture is written that believing, you may have [eternal] life in his name. Scripture must always be viewed in the context of our full realization of the divine life in the world to come. Our present life is presented as a vapor which appears for a little while, and afterwards shall vanish away (James 1:17). It would seem odd to see the deeper and even other worldly emphasis throughout the Sermon of the Mount, excepting these two verses.
When we add to this the fact that the Greek word for prison, phulake, is the same word used by St. Peter, in I Peter 3:19, to describe the holding place into which Jesus descended after his death to liberate the detained spirits of Old Testament believers, the Catholic position makes even more sense. Phulake is demonstrably used in the New Testament to refer to a temporary holding place and not exclusively in this life.
The Plainest Text
I Corinthians 3:11-15 may well be the most straightforward text in all of Sacred Scripture when it comes to Purgatory:
For no other foundation can any one lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if any one builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubbleeach mans work will become manifest; for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. If the work which any man has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. If any mans work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.
No Christian sect I know of even attempts to deny this text speaks of the judgment of God where the works of the faithful will be tested after death. It says our works will go through fire, figuratively speaking. In Scripture, fire is used metaphorically in two ways: as a purifying agent (Mal. 3:2-3; Matt. 3:11; Mark 9:49); and as that which consumes (Matt. 3:12; 2 Thess. 1:7-8). So it is a fitting symbol here for Gods judgment. Some of the works represented are being burned up and some are being purified. These works survive or burn according to their essential quality (Gr. hopoiov – of what sort).
What is being referred to cannot be heaven because there are imperfections that need to be burned up (see again, Rev. 21:27, Hab. 1:13). It cannot be hell because souls are being saved. So what is it? The Protestant calls it the Judgment and we Catholics agree. We Catholics simply specify the part of the judgment of the saved where imperfections are purged as Purgatory.
Objection!
The Protestant respondent will immediately spotlight the fact that there is no mention, at least explicitly, of the cleansing of sin anywhere in the text. There is only the testing of works. The focus is on the rewards believers will receive for their service, not on how their character is cleansed from sin or imperfection. And the believers here watch their works go through the fire, but they escape it!
First, what are sins, but bad or wicked works (see Matthew 7:21-23, John 8:40, Galatians 5:19-21)? If these works do not represent sins and imperfections, why would they need to be eliminated? Second, it is impossible for a work to be cleansed apart from the human being who performed it. We are, in a certain sense, what we do when it comes to our moral choices. There is no such thing as a work floating around somewhere detached from a human being that could be cleansed apart from that human being. The idea of works being separate from persons does not make sense.
Most importantly, however, this idea of works being burned up apart from the soul that performed the work contradicts the text itself. The text does say the works will be tested by fire, but if the work survives… he will receive a reward. If any mans work is burned up, he shall suffer loss. And, he will be saved, but only as through fire (Gr. dia puros). The truth is: both the works of the individual and the individual will go through the cleansing fire described by St. Paul in order that he might finally be saved and enter into the joy of the Lord. Sounds an awful lot like Purgatory.
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Mockery is so befitting of a real man. /s
Galatians 6:7 Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap.
Mock God and His Scripture at your own peril.
? And no, no one needs purgatory. You're either saved or not. If you're saved, it's heaven. If you're not, it's hell.
It’s all Catholics have left in their arsenal when they cannot context a teaching out of Scripture.
It’s all Catholics have left in their arsenal when they cannot context a teaching out of Scripture.
Chalk it up as a win.
It says more about the poster than those being mocked.
Unscriptural baptisms. They are not even alluded to in Scripture. Simply another Catholic construct.
The thief on the cross got into heaven that day because Jesus forgave him, not because of some alleged reason that the Catholic church made up to explain away why it doesn't believe Scripture.
Just what facts to you have to back this up?
The common ground for catholics and protestants is quite solid... they tend to have some common worship habits that most don’t think about...I never did until I started to ask, seek and knock...
purgatory and the sacraments and mary and the pope are just mother/daughter squabbles with what they do share..
“And no, no one needs purgatory. You’re either saved or not. If you’re saved, it’s heaven. If you’re not, it’s hell”
Well so says brotha Jimmah Swaggart and so says metmom.
And you certainly don’t need to go to church, so says brotha
Jimmah Swaggart and so says metmom. Just “believe” and “get born” again! Can I hear an amen? How bout another?? Amen!
Baptism of Desire
http://www.romancatholicism.org/trent-baptism.html
http://www.cmri.org/02-baptism_blood-desire_stalph.html
http://catholicism.about.com/od/baltimorecatechism/f/Question_160_BC.htm
http://www.ewtn.com/library/ANSWERS/HOW2PURG.htm
Because the doctrine of purgatory was held by pre-Christian Jews, post-Christian Jews, Catholics, and Eastern Orthodox, nobody thought of denying it until the Protestant Reformation, and thus only Protestants deny it today.
Opinion pieces by Catholics to rationalize things that have no Scriptural support are meaningless.
There is no God breathed, Holy Spirit inspired Scripture that teaches that anything but the blood of Jesus cleanses us from sin.
There’s no Scripture to support it.
It’s irrelevant how many people believed it for how long.
It’s wrong and right and wrong do not change in God’s economy.
Without the shedding of blood, there is no remission of sins.
oh, contraire
Even the Jews knew the apocrapha was NOT SCRIPTURE, they only included it as history
so, those who add to scripture are the ones in error, especially if they call documents that even the Jews rejectd as not scripture, as scripture...
knowing Jesus never referred to any doctrine of burning off sin for an unknown time, yet referred to men as going to paradise or awaiting eternal torment with no inbetween...
you need a good King James, English language directly translated from the original tongues, not from Greek to Latin to English as the Douay
And, if you like, get a 1614 KJV, that has the apocrapha in it... I am not a KJV purist, I just believe we dont need 100 different English translations when one was good enough already (and then was updated with 150 changes by 1787 I think...and I think 50 more by 1879)...
I prefer a Zodhiates study Bible, it has the greek dictionaries , Hebrew dictionaries, some notes, but I usually ignore notes
Do you know of an article like this regarding Free Will?
I agree. In Revelations Jesus is described as having 7 horns and 7 eyes for the 7 Churches hes the Lord of... I know I am not qualified to judge who is saved or not...
Chapter and verse please?
God calls. Faith saves. He didn't ask Christ for a "Baptism of Blood," or "...Desire" -- he asked for Jesus to remember him. How simple:
"42 And he said, Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom. 43 And he said to him, Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in Paradise (Luke 23:42-43 ESV)"
"...remember me when you come into your kingdom," not, "baptize me with blood," or, "I desire to be baptized!"
And Jesus told him, "Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in Paradise," -- not some imaginary Purgaory.
Why try to insert some man-made charlatanry into such a sweet, simple thing as grace? We don't deserve salvation; God saves us through Christ's shed blood... not some bloody baptism.
Hoss
Now you’re just sounding like a babbling idiot.
Amen! It should be noted here that the Eastern Orthodox Church also disagrees with the Catholics on Purgatory. It was but one of the many reasons they split in the eleventh century. One of the reasons they deny the doctrine of Purgatory is that it was NOT something believed or taught by Jesus, the Apostles or the early church but was thought up much later by the Roman catholic church.
I believe the phrase they use is “Roman novelty.”
Yes, it IS indeed! In Hebrews 10:18 says, "Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin." Because of Christ's once for all sacrifice, we who have believed in Him are made righteous and cleansed from all our sins - past, present and future. That is why there can NOT be any other offering for sin - no matter how long someone suffers in a Purgatory. The basic premise for this heretical doctrine is faulty. That is why is was and still is rejected - for good reason.
Jesus, before He resurrected (those three days, remember?) is when He went to Paradise and "led captivity captive" (Eph. 4:8 cf Psalm 68:18) into Heaven. THEN he arose from the dead and walked with His disciples for forty days before He ascended into heaven. Jesus told the believing thief, "I tell you this day you will be with me in Paradise.", and he WAS and then along with the souls waiting there, Jesus led them into heaven because He had paid the penalty for sin and opened the gates of heaven for them.
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