Posted on 05/01/2014 8:21:05 AM PDT by fishtank
Creation Conversion: The Turning Point
Many people believe that creationists are brainwashed from birth and adhere to a recent biblical creation simply because it has been drilled into their heads since they were toddlersa form of partisan indoctrination. But there are scientists who became creationists only after careful study and serious deliberation. They believed in a billions-of-years-old universe for many years before coming to a crossroads in their lives.
When these scientists reached a turning pointfrom belief in countless years of evolution to belief in a recent creation that took place just thousands of years agotheir lives completely changed course. This creation conversion couldnt be more radical. Its a complete revision in worldview that forever alters an individuals understanding of the age and origin of the reality around him.
Numerous Christians whove diligently studied both Scripture and the scientific case for recent creation have experienced this convergence of life, education, and discovery as they journey toward Godthis pivotal moment. Others are traveling down a similar road but still want more answers. Perhaps looking at the creation conversion of a scientist who has been on that same path can shed some light. Here is Frank Sherwins story:
...more at link
Frank Sherwin - ICR zoologist
Ah, so the God of YEC is a trickster Who tweaks the carbon decay cycle and alters ... naw, too strange.
Junk site.
I’m an avowed creationist ... I believe God Created Space and time a few billion years ago by my reckoning; by His reckoning it may only be a few days ago. Since I believe He created what we sense and are, that makes me a Creationist ... I just think it is silly to argue over temporal span we cannot fathom, because we cannot see the entire Universe from His perspective.
Thanks for that link!
I’m going to submit my name for inclusion.
Engineering degreed, “science” trained, evolutionary assumptive “educated”...
then I heard, basically for the first time, the defense of biblical creationism and the problems and inconsistencies of the evolutionary assumptive viewpoint.
That was, indeed, my “turning point” in my faith.
Although I have to admit I always thought the 'macro-evolutionary' model (goo to you) had the smell of malarkey about it - but it was all I was taught or exposed to for nearly 40 years.
I remember stumbling upon the ICR website years ago and reading some of the material and saying to myself - 'you are actually supposed to believe this ****?!' [**** being the Bible]... I read some more, weighed the evidence, and considered... And then concluded, Engineering degrees notwithstanding, I'd been pretty much an idiot the first 40 years of my life.
Mine/ours was after the first day of an AIG conference.
We went back to our hotel that night and looked at each other with the question - “what do we do with this?” “this” encompassing the entire argument of secular evolutionism vs the veracity of the exact biblical account.
There is no compatibility between the evolutionary assumption of history and the biblical account of history: creation, the fall, the need for a Savior, the providing of the Savior, and the remaking of the world.
“I became hooked on reading and studying biology from a creation science perspective.”
You usually find what you are looking for. This is a declaration of faith. That’s fine but it’s devoid of scientific proof other than the unsupported assertion that evolution doesn’t work. It does perpetuate the straw man argument about the lack of inter species transitions. A finch cannot become a horse and no one ever said they could. A series of finches can evolve into a finch like separate species however. And that is the point of evolution.
As to the young earth bit, that is patently absurd unless you want to propose that the laws of physics are here only to trick us, having been designed to give the appearance of, say, radioactive decay. I guess we are to believe in a trickster supernatural being.
Nicely - and intelligently - put!!!
How old was Adam when he was created?
Now how old was the Earth when it was created?
The “strawman” is saying that God is a “trickster” for creating mature things in His creation.
There is no “macro evolution” theory like the one you express. It’s all micro evolution over long periods of time. Even the so called Cambrian explosion took millions of years to fill what was then a newly friendly to life environment with a bunch of related creatures. No one ever thought a fish suddenly becomes a lizard. There are innumerable intermediate creatures between the two. Each creature in this line is quite similar to its immediate predecessor.
Well, was Adam created a mature man? More confusingly, was the earth created in such a manner as to give the appearance scientifically of an ancient world with physical processes that go back billions of years?
I don’t think God is a trickster but I also don’t think the earth was created six thousand years ago.
And Scripture supports this belief: "But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day." 2 Peter 3:8
Scripture says a day is not necessarily 24 hours, so all the calculus of the 'young earth' belivers is specious. Time and Space is a created thing. God is outside of Time and Space.
But a wee item derived from a book by Hubert Yockey, Information Theory and Molecular Biology, (Cambridge Univ. Press. 1992), has impressed me. The following is not a direct quote from the book, but a citation from another circular referencing Yockeys book: Accordingly, the probability of evolving one molecule of iso-1-cytochrome c, a small protein common in plants and animals, is an astounding one chance in 2.3 times ten billion vigintillion.
Ten billion vigintillion is one (the numeral 1) followed by 75 zeroes.
(This info was published in an ICR circular titled “Impact,” #317, Nov. 1999)
Then the vast majority of the fossil record should consist of these 'intermediate creatures'. Not a few, not a simple majority, but the vast majority. That is not the case.
“The strawman is saying that God is a trickster for creating mature things in His creation.” God is NOT a trickster, and that’s why we cannot dismiss the evidence of very old fossils, because it would make God a trickster fabricating contradictions for fooling us.
Ah, but has come into time and space in the person of The Christ.
And the most simple (stupendously complex) cell requires dozens of such proteins.
Mathemeticians declare that any event with odds over 1 in 10 to the 50th power are impossible, even given the supposed billions of years of the age of the universe.
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