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To: af_vet_1981
unholy father of these re-formed religions,

Henry was hardly the 'father' of any reform, as he was late getting started and was only interested in getting back at the Pope for his non-annulments. No interest in scriptural truth, just secular power. In that way he was a mirror image of the Pope, but a 'father' of reform? I guess Catholics will call anyone father.

293 posted on 05/06/2014 4:15:44 PM PDT by xone
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To: xone
Henry was hardly the 'father' of any reform, as he was late getting started and was only interested in getting back at the Pope for his non-annulments. No interest in scriptural truth, just secular power. In that way he was a mirror image of the Pope, but a 'father' of reform? I guess Catholics will call anyone father.

Well, he wanted to be a father, the Catholic Church said no, and so he started his own Church (1533/1534). He became an unholy father of an unholy church. Yes, he trailed Luther by some years (Luther's theses in 1517, Luther declared a heretic in 1521, Luther unable to agree with Zwingli on Eucharist in 1529, Luther starts his own religion in 1530 with Augsburg Confession). It appears that the norm of the Protestant model is to continually re-form their religions. They obviously are not the holy catholic apostolic Church. Do you share the view that such a Church has not existed on this earth since the death of the Apostle John ?

298 posted on 05/06/2014 7:23:59 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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