Posted on 04/27/2014 3:47:28 PM PDT by Faith Presses On
With it so much in the news right now that the Catholic Church is making two former Popes "saints." shouldn't Bible-believing Christians, and those in leadership in particular, be pointing out the Bible truth on who is a saint is? The media won't do this themselves, and the Catholic use of "saint" has caused a lot of ignorance on this most important matter.
Amen.
And we’re all making it to heaven
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Even us proddies! Yes. I’ve been told that Catholics have allowed that non Catholics can go to Heaven.
Nonsense. The RCC did not write the OT nor did it write the NT as the Catholic church wasn't around for a few hundred years.
GOD, not the Roman *church*, is responsible for giving us HIS word.
“Since all the Books were already compiled before Constantine and the Churches already were telling people what is real, and all Constantine did was put a stamp on it, tell me just how the RCC had anything to do with something that it had nothing to do with?”
Your willfully ignorant in such matters. I see no need to even talk to you on this subject.
Well, that's a first.
The saints in your opinion would be whom? Does mother Theresa fit the Bill? She saved so many sick, poor and helpless.
Does John Paul 2 who fought the Godless communists from the pulpit while in Poland and risked soviet reprisals for his faith count ?
Maybe Martin Luther because he nailed his thesis to the cathedral? Sounds like destruction of property to me, but hey, the Catholic Church needed a kick in the pants at that time, selling indulgences etc.
In my RC parochial grade school, we were taught that saints were the people who made it to heaven. Those are the only saints. All others including those who have been given the title ‘Saint’. Are only given a title here on earth. They may or may not really be saints.
Wow. How condescending of them to rub elbows with the unwashed.
I was not reading your religious forum, but rather skimming all posts.
It’s funny, the only forum where I get nasty responses telling me not to read, is the RF. You guys are the least Christian people on FR.
I’m just afraid that when I get to heaven I’m going to have all the saints asking me; “Hey man. How come you didn’t pray to me?”
“Patron Saints” are supposedly entities you can pray to to intercede on your behalf with God. Although not biblical in any way, these entities can ‘put in a good word’ for you if, for instance, you are an “Anesthetist” and need help with your patient dosing (pray to Saint Rene Goupil) or if you have an issue with fuzzy caterpillars (pray to Magnus of Füssan), or even if you wanted to levitate (pray to any of these: http://saints.sqpn.com/saints-who-had-the-gift-of-levitation/).
Catholics get a lot more “bang for their bucks” than Protestants. Protestants merely pray to God through Christ.
Catholics appear to have a lot more "crazy" fun with God.
“Jesus said to them again, ‘Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I send you.’ And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, ‘Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.’ “
43 And when an unclean spirit is gone out of a man he walketh through dry places seeking rest, and findeth none. 44 Then he saith: I will return into my house from whence I came out. And coming he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished. 45 Then he goeth, and taketh with him seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is made worse than the first. So shall it be also to this wicked generation.
Catholics have always done the sainthood thing and Its never been an issue for me. If anything I think the stories behind the individual saints contain some great Christian messages.
A personal favorite is the story of Saint Maurice who led a Roman legion but as a Christian refused to offer sacrifice to the Roman pagan gods and then refused to attack Christians.
Catholics believe that anyone who dies in the good Grace of God is a saint
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If that’s true then why are they having this discussion right now over making two previous popes saints?
Saints are those who have repented of their sins and received the Holy Spirit by faith
just like the Bible says
Not all saints live Holy lives, but it should be evident by their lives they are Saints
Not all saints did miracles, but the RCC demands 2 miracles to prove someone is a saint.
The answer to the questions below is NO:
1Cor 12:28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
1Cor 12:29 [Are] all apostles? [are] all prophets? [are] all teachers? [are] all workers of miracles?
1Cor 12:30 Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?
1Cor 12:31 But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.
No, not all do miracles, yet Paul calls them saved, saints, set apart ones.
The RCC has established many doctrines that are just not Biblical...just as modern protestantism has.
Both are liberal now, it seems, I still believe the best you’re going to get is a Bible Church or an independent Baptist Church, but even they are falling aside and becoming laxidaisical
Our time of judgement is coming, and quickly, our nation needs to repent of their sins and fall on their faces before God and repent and get saved.
Neither the RCC or mainstream Protestantism will teach them that
We have !
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Solemnity is the order of the day for John Paul II and John XXIII’s double canonization
Two (soon to be) Saints Who Smiled
Popes John XXIII, John Paul II to be canonized April 27th
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Pope Francis signs canonization decrees for John XXIII and John Paul II
Pope John XXIII and Pope John Paul II to be canonised
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Blessed Pope John XXIII [Catholic Caucus]
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Angelo Roncalli (Pope John XXIII) and Priestly Celibacy
We have !
Many times -- LOL! You asked for it.
Pope Francis’ sermon for the canonization
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Woman healed by John Paul II's intercession recounts miracle
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Why Divine Mercy Sunday is the most fitting day for John Paul II’s canonization
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Sainthood rites for John Paul II, John XXIII to be beamed around the world (3D in cinemas, for free)
More to Know About John Paul II
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Personal Notes Underscore John Paul II's Marian Devotion
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John Paul II’s 1983 Visit to Poland: Anniversary Reflections
The Day I Met John Paul II in a Pizza Joint (Joked: Catholic Church will collapse. But what if..)
Popes John XXIII, John Paul II to be canonized April 27th
Canonization date announced for Blessed Popes John Paul II and John XXIII
Pope John Paull II on the US Constitution and Freedom
Report: Pope Francis Says John Paul II to Be Canonized April 27
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Late Pope John Paul II to get sainthood, Vatican says
Pope Francis signs canonization decrees for John XXIII and John Paul II
Sainthood [Drudge Headline-Pope John Paul II]
Pope Francis clears John Paul II for sainthood
Pope John XXIII and Pope John Paul II to be canonised
Vatican Panel Clears John Paul II For Sainthood
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Vatican theologians approve second miracle of John Paul II
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President Carter says he clashed with 'fundamentalist' Pope John Paul II
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Monument to John Paul II Unveiled in Moscow
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Monument to John Paul II to be Set Up in Moscow
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Rome’s exorcist finding Bl. John Paul II effective against Satan (Catholic Caucus)
Historian: John Paul II saw spiritual meaning behind assassination attempt (Catholic Caucus)
How Pope John Paul II Changed My Life
Pope John Paul II's Pro-Life Witness Celebrated at Catholic Breakfast
On the beatification of John Paul II (Catholic/Orthodox Caucus)
Columnists' (favorable) opinions on beatification of John Paul II (Catholic Caucus)
Call made for John Paul II to be patron saint of youth (Catholic Caucus)
Blessed Encounters With John Paul II
Prayer Vigil Reveals Unknown Facts About John Paul II
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A John Paul II Beatification Catechism
Program For The Beatification Of John Paul II
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John Paul II being beatified for holiness, not his papacy, speakers say
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John Paul II's beatification approved for May 1, Divine Mercy Sunday
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Vatican announces beatification of Servant of God John Paul II
[CATHOLIC CAUCUS] Work starts on moving pope John Paul II's body
Vatican analyst reports approval of beatification for Pope John Paul II (Catholic Caucus)
Miracle approved for beatification of John Paul II
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Gingrich Screens Film on Pope John Paul II
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John Paul II's 1979 'Novena' - Gingrich's 'Nine Days That Changed the World'
Gingriches' film on Pope John Paul II made as an 'act of devotion'
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John Paul II and Mary (catholic Caucus)
Lift Up Your Hearts - What Pope John Paul II taught the world
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Catholic Ping!
Thank you.
Its that the people on this “religious” thread do hardly anything but dump on the way others practice. If it’s not calling out catholics, it’s complaining about Mormons. There is more time on here spent calling out others and so little time finding common ground.
The message of Jesus is lost in the Babel like debates about our differences.
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