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Are You a Dispensationalist? (Ecumenical)
Personal Update News Journal ^ | March, 2011 | Leisa Garcia

Posted on 04/06/2014 12:12:06 PM PDT by wmfights

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I agree with the three Sine Qua Non of Normative/Classical Dispensationalism:

__ I use a consistent, literal, face-value method of interpretation and understanding the entire Word of God, including prophecy. In other words—“God says what He means, and means what He says,” so I can take what He says at face value.

__ I believe there is a distinction between the Nation of Israel and the Church (The Ekklesia of Christ).

__ I believe the underlying purpose of everything is for the Glory of God.

1 posted on 04/06/2014 12:12:06 PM PDT by wmfights
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I would like to put together a Dispensationalist ping list. If you are a dispensationalist and would like to be on the list please mail me.

If a list already exists please let me know and I will ping those freepers in the future.

2 posted on 04/06/2014 12:14:50 PM PDT by wmfights
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I was with you up to the last line about the pretrib B.S. the corporate church of America came up with in the last 100 years. The body of believers in Christ are being killed and there homes and church's are being burned down right now. If you were being murdered and burned out you would believe the trib is here and now. But instead in your warm comfortable world you get to fly away with no skin in the game. This is a lie of Satan himself to keep you looking in the wrong direction. The test comes soon and I wonder how many will stand or roll over and give in.
3 posted on 04/06/2014 12:52:15 PM PDT by lostboy61 (Lock and Load and stand your ground!)
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Much like the author, I was a dispensationalist and never knew it - although I detest all labels as the enemy uses them to divide Christians. I don’t see how its possible to rightly divide the Word without knowing the proper dispensation. Much religious error in the time of Paul was the result of attempting to apply what was/is meant for Israel to the Church, the Body of Christ. That continues to this day.

My understanding of the subject was greatly aided by numerous writers, but Clarence Larkin, and E W Bullinger, the latter especially, challenged me in this area and shattered much of the religious traditions/nonsense I had learned growing up and religious classes in college.

Please add me to the ping list since this is an area of interest for me. Thanks!


4 posted on 04/06/2014 1:17:01 PM PDT by Kandy Atz ("Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want for bread.")
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I think Dispensationalism is an interesting way to consider things but I am not sure one should consider that He changes during the relationship. I have learned, rather that it is just a helpful way or “perspective” to consider the history. Theme is a good word to cover it.


5 posted on 04/06/2014 1:31:19 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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I believe I’ve made a mistake and the thread should be labeled ecumenical. Please change it.


6 posted on 04/06/2014 1:48:41 PM PDT by wmfights
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Thanks for the input. I'll try to find articles to post from Clarence Larkin and E W Bullinger. I think some tough theological discussions would be good.

In my own experience I was in agreement with the Reformed on most things, but when we got into eschatology and Israel I found I waas of the Dispensational view.

7 posted on 04/06/2014 1:55:49 PM PDT by wmfights
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I lean pre-trib, but I’ve often wondered what Christians thought during WW2 holocaust


8 posted on 04/06/2014 2:36:18 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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Please include me on your ping list.


9 posted on 04/06/2014 2:40:09 PM PDT by Mrs.Z
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Done!


10 posted on 04/06/2014 3:30:07 PM PDT by wmfights
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I lean pre-trib, but I’ve often wondered what Christians thought during WW2 holocaust

If they read and believed the bible, they would have known they were not going thru the Tribulation...They did however go thru tribulations and perilous times...

11 posted on 04/06/2014 3:48:08 PM PDT by Iscool (Ya mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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Add me too...


12 posted on 04/06/2014 3:48:40 PM PDT by Iscool (Ya mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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There is no way to understand scripture or prophesy without understanding the different dispensations. We see the errors here all the time.


13 posted on 04/06/2014 3:50:34 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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Done!


14 posted on 04/06/2014 5:02:13 PM PDT by wmfights
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There is no way to understand scripture or prophesy without understanding the different dispensations.

I couldn't agree more.

What really changed my thinking was focusing on the question of whether God is done with Israel, or not. After the Cross did those that believe The Gospel replace Israel, or does God still have a plan for Israel.

15 posted on 04/06/2014 5:10:16 PM PDT by wmfights
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What really changed my thinking was focusing on the question of whether God is done with Israel, or not. After the Cross did those that believe The Gospel replace Israel, or does God still have a plan for Israel.

From my understanding, Israel didn't really exist as a nation at the time of the Gospels. Israel however became a nation again in 1948 as foretold in the bible in the Ot. So God had a plan for Israel and he surely does when he comes back. That is favorite place.

16 posted on 04/06/2014 5:33:15 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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There is a very good article on Dispensations and Ages in ‘The Omega Letter’ website.


17 posted on 04/06/2014 5:43:09 PM PDT by Ramonne
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>>After the Cross did those that believe The Gospel replace Israel, or does God still have a plan for Israel.<<

There are still seven more years left for Israel from the time prophesied for them. Once people understand that, prophesy becomes more clear. That plus understanding the Jewish wedding custom helps also. The seven days the couple is sequestered away compares to the time we, the bride of Christ, are with Him in heaven during the seven year tribulation.

18 posted on 04/06/2014 5:44:58 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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I lean pre-trib, but I’ve often wondered what Christians thought during WW2 holocaust

Somewhere along about Isaiah 8, I think it speaks of this, although it is a little cloudy. They were apparently part of the 10 tribes that were granted temporary sanctuary in other countries after they fled Israel. God has a long memory.

19 posted on 04/06/2014 6:23:26 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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I lean pre-trib, but I’ve often wondered what Christians thought during WW2 holocaust

Most weren't aware of the full extent of the Holocaust until after the war.

20 posted on 04/06/2014 6:24:24 PM PDT by dfwgator
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