Posted on 04/01/2014 11:06:30 AM PDT by Gamecock
CHICAGO A new study to be published in Christianity Today magazine exposes a dangerous wave of church subculture that has built enormous momentum over the past decade. Hazing, which until now has been almost entirely associated with college fraternities and sororities, has made its way into our churches as a method of initiating would-be small group members and filtering out those too weak to join. While most colleges have squelched hazing in recent years, a new surge in small group hazingresulting in at least two fatalitiesis causing some pastors to follow suit and ban the practice altogether.
This has got to stop! said Pastor Gene Appel of Willow Creek Community Church in South Barrington, IL. Even if there werent any deaths, its difficult for me to concentrate during my preaching when theres someone skipping on stage behind me wearing nothing but flannelgraph characters taped over his privates! Im sure thats not where cartoon-Moses wants to be poking his staff.
Events like this are occurring across the country.
The study, conducted by Christian Research International, found evidence that services in every region of the United States are being interrupted by small group hazing. The McGeorges small group at Hickory Square Baptist in Keene, NH required all of its 6 pledges to shout bless you or gesundheit every time their pastor said Gethsemane during their Easter service. Arthur Culver, a small group pledge at Kendall United Methodist Church in Miami, FL, was instructed to sit in the front row and eat and drink all of the communion elements when they were passed.
Other reported instances of hazing stretch beyond Sunday morning and into the daily lives of pledges. Sam Mills of Logan, MT was among the 4 pledges woken at 3am and instructed to shovel 9 inches of snow off Logan Church of Gods 2-acre parking lot immediately and barefoot. Terri Wendt of Sonora Bible Church in Texas was ordered to sign up for all 48 shifts of SBCs 24-hour prayer watch in November.
Who can measure the damage inflicted on the Kingdom due to things like this? fumed Pastor Aaron Vang of SBC. The only thing less effective than Terris last 10 or 15 prayer watch shifts is this hazing and its attempt to assemble quality small groups!
Keith Hatter, 5-year Alpha-Alpha-Omega small group leader at New Faith Community in Seattle, WA, disagrees.
Maybe in the 80s small group pledging wouldnt have had as good a purpose. But some churches are so large these days that there are enough people to make entire small groups out of just the cool people. There has to be a way to ensure that happens. Cmon, we dont want just anyone signing up for Alpha-Alpha-Omega! They can go to the Foresters group, which still allows sign-ups, thank God.
But the sobering fact, as the study reports, is that there have been two recent deaths resulting from small group hazing. While some argue the deaths, caused by an automobile accident during two pledges high-speed drive-by evangelism duties, are atypical, many elders use the fatalities as a basis on which to ban hazing in their churches.
Leonard Kindred, principal investigator for the study, explained to THO, Were no longer just talking about doing the Bible study homework for the small group leaders, speaking only with small group brothers and sisters, or learning the small group anthem. Weve recorded countless examples of dangerous spiritual activities taking place. One poor pledge was forced to eat nothing but unleavened bread for 40 days, which is the standard pledge period. He ended up in the hospital with chronic constipation and fecal impaction.
With this studys release, many church leaders are at a crossroads as to how seriously they will take the potential dangers of small group hazing.
Said Pastor Chris Malcolm of Sun Valley Episcopal in Fresno, CA, I was unaware that these dangers could exist in my church, but Ive decided to bring them up at my next small group meeting. My group has recruited like all of the best Christians in the congregation so well stay on top of this issue!
Something has to be done!
A proper day to post this important, critical, earthshaking news!!!!!!!
Oh my goodness, why haven’t I heard about this before? Bullying in small groups???????
Is this story a April Fools Joke? Sounds like it to me.
“WHAT??? Oh, Gamecock. The guy who thinks EVERY day is April Fool’s.” I have encountered many Protestants who regard Baptism as hazing.
As an April Fools joke that one fell flat.
Maybe next year?
You’re telling me you never encountered the Baptist who thinks you’re supposed to hold the poor sucker underwater for like 30 seconds?
Yeah- quick enough search of keene nh shows no Hickory Square Baptist...
That's only for the Catholic converts.
Is that just more of the bad April Fools joke?
Or are you serious that it's Baptist [ministers] who are "hazing" people into the church? Or --- just a Baptist (any 'ol Baptist) who thinks they are supposed to?
Just how many Baptisms administered by "Baptists" have you personally encountered?
I would ask -- how many "Baptist" you have encountered who *thought* that a thirty second hold-down was required...but unless some Baptist told you that's what they *think*, it's not clear to me how you would accurately enough know.
Then again, if we can pick on an unnamed Baptist (any 'ol Baptist, of course! the more the merrier) about what they may *think*... then by all means let us all pick on any ol' Roman Catholic for things which they may *think* while we are at it. Just to make sure people are thinkin' right, of course.
That's the trouble with the world today...too many thinkers. Something should be done.
Otherwise, you did ask or otherwise make sidelong inquiry as to if "I" had "never encountered" a Baptist who "thinks [they] are supposed to hold the poor sucker under water for like 30 seconds".
I've not encountered one who *thinks* that technique is required procedure, as far as I know, if I can assume "poor sucker" in your usage meant the one who was being baptized. Uh, but if that's RCC terminology as applied to their own, since it's babies who they'll baptize, provided they can get their mitts on 'em (that last phrase was colloquial) when that young --- then "suckers" might be accurate enough. Poor? Ok, some of them are possibly born of poor parents. I'd hate to think the terminology extends into adulthood...but then again more than few RC priests have demonstrated preference for "pre-adults"..?
Getting back to your initial question more directly, along with not having been told or witnessed either such a thing as "like 30 seconds", hold 'em down till they near drown(?), and in consideration that my mind-reading capabilities seem to myself to be more typically limited to an occasional picking up on *thoughts* being more on the front burners so to speak, along with ability to pick up on general pattern of thought persons I encounter have kind-of burned into their own brain (through repetitive practice, I take it) which can result in some broadcasting of 'vibe' (which term is another colloquialism for those of you in Rio Linda, and vladi too, of course) which I'm not alone in being capable of fairly accurately sensing; I suppose there are possibly persons who *think* as you outlined --- which I may have crossed paths with thus "encountered" but remained myself unawares of what they *thought* concerning baptism, and how long to hold a person under, also more specifically.
Ignorance is bliss? see line 99
Life is a series of hazing’s. You learn how to deal with them. Then you get old and don’t give a ..............
Lighten up, Francis! Other than the fact that I don’t believe in the necessity of full immersion, I have no problem with it. In fact, my son was pretty well immersed with three dips at an Eastern Rite parish (Being an infant, they poured water over his head with the priest’s hand on his mouth and nose, but otherwise he was in up to his chin.)
I’ve known several people who’ve experienced adult baptisms and all but one joked about how long it seemed they were under... even though no two were baptized in the same church. So, given that baptism is literally an INITIATION ritual, calling it a “hazing” didn’t seem like too far of a stretch FOR WHAT WAS OBVIOUSLY INTENDED TO BE HUMOR.
Along lines of what I said to you originally ---
Could be risky biz for a convert if they were to be immersed by one of those triple-dunkers.
I'm beginning to see why "they" (this time they get to be the infamous "they") are so scared of us ("us", as in the royal "we").
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Jorge Boosh is hazing kittens. Or so I heard.
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