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To: ealgeone

“Mother of Christ....right?”

Christ is God....right?

“A woman born as a sinner as you and I....right?”

Nope.

“In need of salvation as you and I....right?”

Yes, but she was saved at the moment of her conception unlike you and I. Her Divine Son gave her a great gift of grace from the beginning. He saved her from sin from her beginning. You and I are saved by Christ differently for we have already sinned.


233 posted on 03/20/2014 2:37:27 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998
Holy Spirit called her *mother of Jesus* in the Bible, did He not?

Why does the Catholic church presume to correct the words of the Holy Spirit?

258 posted on 03/20/2014 4:36:52 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: vladimir998
“Mother of Christ....right?”
Christ is God....right?
“A woman born as a sinner as you and I....right?” Nope.
“In need of salvation as you and I....right?”

Yes, but she was saved at the moment of her conception unlike you and I. Her Divine Son gave her a great gift of grace from the beginning. He saved her from sin from her beginning. You and I are saved by Christ differently for we have already sinned.

Where in the world do you get this stuff?? There is NOTHING in the Bible that suggests she was free/saved from sin at her conception. That is a HUGE assumption of Catholic teaching.

The justification used by the Catholic teaching is that the term favored one was a special title addressed to her. IT was used in Luke, but the same word is also used to describe believers in Ephesians 1:6. I've included the Greek definition below for reference.

Cognate: 5487 xaritóō (from 5486 /xárisma, "grace," see there) – properly, highly-favored because receptive to God's grace. 5487 (xaritóō) is used twice in the NT (Lk 1:28 and Eph 1:6), both times of God extending Himself to freely bestow grace (favor).

I know Catholic teaching then somehow stretches, and boy do I mean stretch, this to mean that Mary is the Ark of the New Covenant. Again, another concept made up by man with NO Biblical support at all.

Mary herself sets the example for us, directing her worship, adoration, and praise to God alone: “My soul glorifies the Lord and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior, for He has been mindful of the humble state of His servant. From now on all generations will call me blessed, for the Mighty One has done great things for me — holy is His name” (Luke 1:46-49). Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/virgin-Mary.html#ixzz2wY94hyt0

262 posted on 03/20/2014 4:50:27 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, border)
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