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To: vladimir998

RE: I bashed no one.

OK, I admit poor choice of words, however you declared those whoa re not ROMAN Catholic as non-believers in the Gospel, which in effect makes them not Christians.

RE: I didn’t say anyone wasn’t a Christian. Believing in Christ and being baptized makes you a Christian. Being a Protestant means you believe a false gospel, not that you are not a Christian.

Excuse me? How can believing in a false gospel make you a Christian. A believer in a FALSE gospel makes a person a FALSE Christian, in effect making him non-Christian.

RE: For Protestants, like Kennedy, to pretend that St. Patrick - a Catholic saint

Patrick is a SAINT as in saint -— a person acknowledged as holy or virtuous and typically regarded as being in heaven after death. You don’t have to be ROMAN Catholic to believe that.

Also, Patrick was NEVER canonized officially by the ROMAN Catholic church. St. Patrick died around 461 A.D. The first saint formally canonized by the pope—for which we have a record, anyway—was St. Ulrich, bishop of Augsburg, Germany, in the year 993.

RE: If you have to ask what the gospel is, then that just proves my point: Protestants believe a false gospel.

Nope, since I don’t want to misunderstand you, or misquote you, want YOU to explain to us what your idea of the gospel is, then we’ll continue from there. That is why I ask the question. The question is not addressed to others but to YOU individually.

So yes, please explain to us what the gospel is according to your understanding, and then we’ll see whether or not men like James Kennedy believe in it or not.


13 posted on 03/16/2014 7:30:05 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

“OK, I admit poor choice of words, however you declared those whoa re not ROMAN Catholic as non-believers in the Gospel, which in effect makes them not Christians.”

False. I am not “ROMAN Catholic”. I am just Catholic. Also, not believing in the true gospel does not “in effect makes [Protestants] not Christians.”

“Excuse me? How can believing in a false gospel make you a Christian.”

I never said it did. I said BELIEVING IN CHRIST AND BEING BAPTIZED did. I suggest you spend more time actually reading what I post rather than making things up out of thin air.

“A believer in a FALSE gospel makes a person a FALSE Christian, in effect making him non-Christian.”

Nope. Believing in a false gospel makes someone a heretic. Believing in Christ and being baptized makes you a Christian.

“Patrick is a SAINT as in saint -— a person acknowledged as holy or virtuous and typically regarded as being in heaven after death. You don’t have to be ROMAN Catholic to believe that.”

No, but St. Patrick was Catholic. To pretend otherwise is intellectually dishonest.

“Also, Patrick was NEVER canonized officially by the ROMAN Catholic church.”

He didn’t have to be. He was canonized by acclamation. That was common in his time.

“St. Patrick died around 461 A.D. The first saint formally canonized by the pope—for which we have a record, anyway—was St. Ulrich, bishop of Augsburg, Germany, in the year 993.”

So? As I said, St. Patrick was canonized by acclamation. That was all that was needed.

“Nope, since I don’t want to misunderstand you, or misquote you, want YOU to explain to us what your idea of the gospel is, then we’ll continue from there.”

R-I-G-H-T. You’ve already admitted one error (”OK, I admit poor choice of words”) and you’ve committed more. I never said “those whoa re not ROMAN Catholic [are] non-believers in the Gospel”. So, even when I write very clearly - and that’s all the time - you can’t help but “misunderstand” and “misquote” me. That won’t change no matter what I do so I see no reason to do what you want. I will post what I want, when I want, where I want and how I want - within the rules of the board. And there’s nothing you can do about it. Get used to it.

“That is why I ask the question. The question is not addressed to others but to YOU individually.”

I know. And I’m still going to ignore it. My reason is simple: I see you are already completely inventing out of whole cloth things I’ve never said or believed.

“So yes, please explain to us what the gospel is according to your understanding, and then we’ll see whether or not men like James Kennedy believe in it or not.”

Nope. I will merely continue to post what I want, when I want, where I want, and how I want - within the rules of the board. Based on your misrepresentations of what I’ve said already I have no reason to believe you will get any better.


16 posted on 03/16/2014 7:56:22 AM PDT by vladimir998
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