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To: Syncro
Amen to that, but some popes declare that Mary can save.

I doubt they did that, but the Virgin of Israel will always point you to the Holy One of Israel who can save you.

355 posted on 03/12/2014 8:05:36 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: af_vet_1981
Amen to that, but some popes declare that Mary can save.

I doubt they did that, but the Virgin of Israel will always point you to the Holy One of Israel who can save you.

You have little reason to doubt most any attribute or appellation has been or can be ascribed or given to the Mary of Catholicism .

“The power thus put into her (Mary’s) hands is all but unlimited." "the authority which God was pleased to give her is so great that she seems to have the same power as God." "there is no grace which Mary cannot dispose of as her own, which is not given to her for this purpose". "After God, it is impossible to think of anything greater than His Mother" “sometimes salvation is quicker if we remember Mary's name then if we invoked the name of the Lord Jesus.""she had to suffer, as He did, all the consequences of sin." "It was not only during the Passion that Jesus and Mary suffered for our sins," "We were condemned through the fault of one woman; we are saved through the merits of another woman". "As Mother of the Word Incarnate, Mary was elevated to a certain equality with the Heavenly Father." More and sources .

And bowing down to a statue of a mortal and beseeching them for favors would be hard to explain away in the Bible as only "hyperdulia."

And which is never seen among the hundreds of prayers in Scripture , nor even one prayer to anyone else in Heaven by the Lord, except by pagans.

360 posted on 03/12/2014 8:40:50 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: af_vet_1981
Amen to that (Jesus is the only name in which we can be saved,) but some popes declare that Mary can save.

I doubt they did that

Well then you are not very familiar with the past history of your belief system because they CERTAINLY did.

I have provided links in the past to several popes that have said what I told you and if need be I can find them and show them to you.

I think it would be better if you searched for them yourself so you can be more familiar with the history of your denomination.

I have read every word of the history of the church of which I am a member, I suggest you do the same.

Your popes say that Mary can save souls, but Catholics only seem to think that there is a virgin in Israel who will ALWAYS "point you to the Holy One of Israel who can save you" but Mary the mother of Jesus does NOT always do that.

Look it up, check out what some of the past popes have said and you will find it from Catholic history.

382 posted on 03/15/2014 3:43:46 PM PDT by Syncro (So? -Andrew Breitbart [1969-2012] RIP King of The New Media)
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