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Joel Osteen's $10.5 Million Mansion
Christian Post ^ | October 18, 2013 | Alecia MacKenzie ,

Posted on 02/21/2014 6:03:50 PM PST by Gamecock

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To: DaveMSmith; Elsie; Colofornian

Quite the passive-aggressive teaching.

Sounds very LDS.


101 posted on 02/22/2014 2:03:49 PM PST by Gamecock (Grace is not opposed to human activity. It's opposed to human merit. MSH)
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To: Lee N. Field
and 2nd commandment derived scruples about images

Then why did God command the sculpting of cherubim on the Ark of the Covenant?

"And thou shalt make two cherubims of gold, of beaten work shalt thou make them, in the two ends of the mercy seat."

Sculptures like the Lincoln Memorial and the cherubim on the Ark are not intrinsically evil.

God forbids the worship of idols.

"They have been quick to turn away from what I commanded them and have made themselves an idol cast in the shape of a calf. They have bowed down to it and sacrificed to it and have said, 'These are your gods, Israel, who brought you up out of Egypt.'

Exodus 34:17

"Do not make any idols.

Leviticus 19:4

"'Do not turn to idols or make metal gods for yourselves. I am the LORD your God.

Leviticus 26:1

"'Do not make idols or set up an image or a sacred stone for yourselves, and do not place a carved stone in your land to bow down before it. I am the LORD your God.

102 posted on 02/22/2014 2:09:32 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas; Lee N. Field
Then why did God command the sculpting of cherubim on the Ark of the Covenant?

You'll have to ask Him. Ours is not to question why . . .

103 posted on 02/22/2014 2:31:09 PM PST by BipolarBob
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To: tflabo

So far; NO one has bought ANY of my books!

But, if they did, I sure as &&&& would spend the money!


104 posted on 02/22/2014 2:52:25 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Hootowl

And he is WAY off base on Mormonism!

(Of course; he may be more up to speed by now!)


105 posted on 02/22/2014 2:54:08 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Secret Agent Man

There is probably some place in the Scriptures that states a maximum limit to the cost of a dwelling here on earth.


106 posted on 02/22/2014 2:55:58 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: dandiegirl
Osteen and his ostentatious life style is what turns people off to Christianity.

Oh?

Would those same people be turned ON to Christianity by Mother Theresa?

107 posted on 02/22/2014 2:57:35 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Biggirl
It is the prosperity gospel that really, really do turn people off to to the good news of Jesus.

Then the Poverty Gospel ought to really, really turn them on!

108 posted on 02/22/2014 2:58:45 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: lupie
But he is NOT helping people's lives because he is focusing their attention away from the Savior, and to man centered "betterness".

It definitely seems that way.

I received one of his books for Christmas one year.

(It seemed like a good gift for me as the giver is not one is is very knowledgeable about a lot of things going on in Christianity)

I don't think I got halfway when I just HAD to put it down.

109 posted on 02/22/2014 3:01:58 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: BipolarBob

Yup!


110 posted on 02/22/2014 3:02:54 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Gamecock

Them thar flyin’ thingies look like Burds to me!!


111 posted on 02/22/2014 3:04:34 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Graybeard58
Reminds me of what I tell my wife from time to time. “if we didn’t have to pay bills, we’d be rich.”

Almost....


“if we didn’t have to feed goats, we’d be rich.”

112 posted on 02/22/2014 3:07:09 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DaveMSmith
Swedenborg, Secrets of Heaven

NOW you've done it!

This'll bring the Mormons to this thread faster than my rattling a 'tater chip bag brings my goats to me at a gallop!

113 posted on 02/22/2014 3:09:03 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Gamecock
Love of self is the polar opposite of love of the neighbor. I find Swedenborg very direct about those not living a life that leads to heaven.

What about:

Galatians 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

I find these descriptions similar.

Swedenborg published True Christianity in 1771, long before Joseph Smith's time.

114 posted on 02/22/2014 4:13:12 PM PST by DaveMSmith (Evil Comes from Falsity, So Share the Truth)
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To: Elsie
I received one of his books for Christmas one year. (It seemed like a good gift for me as the giver is not one is is very knowledgeable about a lot of things going on in Christianity) I don't think I got halfway when I just HAD to put it down.

Haha - I don't think I could get past one chapter.

115 posted on 02/22/2014 4:18:24 PM PST by lupie
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To: doug from upland

Sorry to hear that, Doug. Believe me, I know exactly how that feels. Prayers sent hoping you prevail.


116 posted on 02/22/2014 5:25:07 PM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Elsie

no but there is one about hypocrisy. bilking people that have far less money than you do to give to your organization, whilke taking a huge personal salary and living in one or more mansions and having private jets.


117 posted on 02/22/2014 5:44:10 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Elsie

actually i’d say more people would admire mother teresa more than osteen,because she lived her faith far more genuinely than osteen. she was in the trenches caring for the ones least wanted by society. if those not yet saved want to see evidence for God and that God cares personally for them, too, mother teresa beats osteen any day of the week by her actions. she letGod’s light and love shine through her to others tyo let them experience God’s lovefor them, personally.

you can’t compare the two, they are world’s apart.


118 posted on 02/22/2014 5:48:59 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Elsie

the deal here isn’t to amass worldly wealth, it’s to build up trreasures for yourself in heaven, ie bringing others to Christ. these are the only things we can take with us to the next life.


119 posted on 02/22/2014 5:51:42 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Hardshell
Is “tithing” a gospel ordinance?,

I do not believe is mentioned in the Gospels.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
120 posted on 02/22/2014 6:10:55 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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