Posted on 02/12/2014 9:14:01 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK
In a globalist, politically correct system of government, where any minority is given preferential status over the majority, especially a Christian majority, some things just have to change. That is the case with having a school mascot and nickname of “Crusaders.”
How could a Christian school expect to get away with a mascot that is not Sharia compliant in the first place?
The school, Maranatha Baptist University in Wisconsin has announced they will drop their old name, but haven’t yet determined.
The Crusades were so long ago, and with the increasing pressure to accommodate Islam in all aspects of American society, they might as well go ahead and get it over with. Besides, what relevance could a fight by Christians against a Muslim jihad sweeping across their continent possibly have in today’s world?
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Better re-read what I posted rather than making stuff up along the way — per Catholic dogma.
Finally you’re starting to see the light!! On this we agree: Catholicism DOES make things up — “dogma”. Glad to see we agree on this.
“On this we agree -— which is why He does not, never Has and never WILL support made up doctrine outside of His Word:”
Show me a verse that supports sola scriptura. That is a “made up doctrine outside of His Word” but Protestants believe it.
“no extra-Biblical pronouncements from on high, no dogma instructing prayers to Mary and the Saints, no sprinkling of babies, no purgatory, no salvation by works.”
Show me the verse that says ALL truths are in scripture. Purgatory is in scripture: http://scripturecatholic.com/purgatory.html
infant baptism: http://www.scripturecatholic.com/baptism.html#baptism-III
And we don’t believe in salvation by works. We believe we are saved by Christ’s grace.
“His Word is the God-breathed and inspired Word of God (and yes, I can find passages to support this, but if I can — so can you — beginning with 2 Timothy 3:16, John 1:1, ...)”
There you go again. Show me the verse which shows Matthew’s gospel was written by Matthew and is inspired. Can you or not?
“and He has declared that NOTHING shall be added or removed from it.”
Show then the verse which shows which books are inspired and which ones are not. If you can’t then you have no biblical way of knowing if something has been “added or removed from it.”
“Catholicism is a case study in adding and removing things from Scripture. May the Lord reveal their deception so they can know the Truth. Amen and amen.”
We’ve always known the truth while you’re just in a sect.
From whom do you think did Baptists got the Bible ? Catholics have preserved the truth about Jesus' birth, life, death, resurrection, ascension, and imminent return for centuries. I understand Baptists differ on other doctrines, and in fact Baptists differ from Protestants as well. Baptists even differ from Baptists; not much unity there on this planet.
As a Catholic, I admit I was surprised to see that a Baptist school used the name “Crusaders”. Regarding changing their name, this is just more PCness gone amuck. Did the article even state that Muslims attend this school? I don’t recall.
There is a school near my job, that every morning starts the day with a prayer and the Pledge of Allegiance over the loudspeaker. Always brings a smile to my face.
The verses Catholics believe support Apostolic oral tradition do no such thing. They support what was told DIRECTLY from the Apostles at the time and SUPPORTED Scripture — not added to it. The verses I showed you which point to the sufficiency of Scripture say just that — as did Christ.
Re: Catholic belief on salvation — we are saved by GRACE ALONE — not in conjunction with anything else — and that is where we differ from Catholicism, as I think you well know.
Baptists are a denomination, just as Roman Catholicism is — no more, no less. The interesting thing, though, is that while Roman Catholics are ardent for the glory of their man-made institution, most Protestant believers are zealous for the Truth of Scripture and for Christ’s glory. Interesting difference that.
The Canon of accepted Truths was NOT decided upon by Roman Catholicism, much as that denomination would love to claim credit. The Canon of accepted Scripture formed the early church/believers — not the other way around. The Canonical teachings were already in place and accepted by the early believers.
That right there will get you killed.
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You’re embarrassing yourself.
“Catholic belief on salvation — we are saved by GRACE ALONE — not in conjunction with anything else — and that is where we differ from Catholicism, as I think you well know.”
The Catholic Church has always taught that anyone who is saved is saved by grace alone. http://www.ewtn.com/library/ANSWERS/GRACALON.HTM
I bet you’re going to continue to embarrass yourself.
“I bet you’re going to continue to embarrass yourself.”
No — I’m leaving that honor to you alone. You have owned the field on that one.
So it’s your official position that one cannot lose one’s salvation, and that one can KNOW for certain that one is saved and it is not incumbent upon one to help save oneself through “sacraments”? If that’s truly your position, you’re the first Catholic I’ve come across who believes that salvation is secure and based on grace and faith alone.
“So it’s your official position that one cannot lose one’s salvation,”
No, “once saved always saved” is not an orthodox Christian belief. That is a heretical belief which only Protestants hold.
“and that one can KNOW for certain that one is saved”
No, “absolute assurance” is not an orthodox Christian belief. That is a heretical belief which only some Protestants hold - not all.
“and it is not incumbent upon one to help save oneself through “sacraments”?”
Only God helps us through the sacraments. They are HIS works not ours.
“If that’s truly your position, you’re the first Catholic I’ve come across who believes that salvation is secure and based on grace and faith alone.”
Salvation by grace alone does not imply - even remotely - the heretical Protestant doctrines of absolute assurance, or once-saved-always-saved.
So you think verses which clearly state the believer is secure are heresy? Guess that’s why we will never agree. I’ll stand on God’s Word: John 10:28, John 6:37-39; and pretty much all of Romans.
Scripture states that it is through faith, not works — Ephesians 2:8-9
In context, the Scripture which speaks of the two together, and which so many Roman Catholics have misunderstood, James 2:14-26, clearly demonstrates the difference between a true, saving faith, and the type which demons possess. Works are not what save, but rather demonstrate the type of faith one has.
Nothing more really need be said. You have demonstrated you cling to the man-made institution of Catholicism; I to Scripture and God’s Word. No middle ground there that I can see. You may continue a monologue if you wish, but continuing this back and forth is unprofitable and I have better things to do, frankly.
“So you think verses which clearly state the believer is secure are heresy?”
There are no verse which “clearly state the believer is secure” in the absolute sense. Those who believe and follow Christ have conditional security.
“Guess that’s why we will never agree. I’ll stand on God’s Word: John 10:28, John 6:37-39; and pretty much all of Romans.”
You don’t stand with God’s Word. You abuse it twist it to your own destruction. Even some Protestants know that to be the case: http://www.amazon.com/The-Believers-Conditional-Security-Eternal/dp/0963907689
“Scripture states that it is through faith, not works — Ephesians 2:8-9”
Oh, you’re going to bring up James 2:24 next? Okay. James 2:24 states it is through works and not faith alone - and that is the only time in the entire Bible the phrase “faith alone” appears. St. Paul uses the phrase “obedience of faith” for a reason.
“In context, the Scripture which speaks of the two together, and which so many Roman Catholics have misunderstood, James 2:14-26, clearly demonstrates the difference between a true, saving faith, and the type which demons possess. Works are not what save, but rather demonstrate the type of faith one has.”
And that would still mean James is correct when he says that we are not saved by “faith alone”.
“Nothing more really need be said. You have demonstrated you cling to the man-made institution of Catholicism; I to Scripture and God’s Word.”
Well, you can keep telling yourself these falsehoods all you like. But you’ll have to ask yourself why so many of your fellow Protestants don’t believe in once-saved-always-saved but also claim to believe in sola scriptura. Clearly your man-made 16th century heretical doctrines don’t work.
“No middle ground there that I can see. You may continue a monologue if you wish, but continuing this back and forth is unprofitable and I have better things to do, frankly.”
Isn’t this the 2nd time (or more?) where you implied you were going to stop posting?
NO! DON’T CAVE!!!!!!!!
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