Posted on 02/12/2014 7:34:09 AM PST by GonzoII
My mother recently sent me an email from a friend who was being challenged by an Evangelical to re-consider her Catholicism. He claimed the Catholic Church had perniciously omitted what he referred to as the second commandmentYou shall not make for yourself a graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth (Exodus 20:4)in order to keep the Catholic faithful in darkness as to the truth that they should not have statues in their churches. Despite appearances, we know Exodus 20 is not a prohibition against making any likeness of anything in a strict sense because we clearly see God either commanding or praising the making of images and statues in multiple biblical texts (see Numbers 21:8-9; I Kings 6:23-28; 9:3). Just five chapters after this so-called prohibition against statues, for example, God commands Moses to make statues representing two angels to be placed over the mercy seat of the Ark of the Covenant: And you shall make two cherubim of gold The cherubim shall spread out their wings above, overshadowing the mercy seat with their wings, their faces one to another . And you shall put the mercy seat on the top of the ark There I will meet with you (Ex. 25:18-22). There are five key points to be made concerning this common misunderstanding among Protestants as well as many quasi-Christian sects. 1. Exodus 20:4 is part of the first commandment that begins in verse 3 and stretches through part of verse five: You shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make for yourself a graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them or serve them. Verses 3 and 5 make clear that this commandment is not simply condemning making statues; It is condemning making gods that you bow down to or serve. In a word, this first commandment forbids idolatry, i.e., the adoration of anything or anyone other than God. The Catholic Church condemns this as well. 2. By lifting out part of the first commandment appearing to prohibit the making of any likeness of anything, not only do you have God contradicting himself in later commanding the making of statues, but you also end up making the first two commandments repetitive. They are both essentially condemning idolatry. 3. Though the commandments are said to be ten in Exodus 34:28, they are not numbered by the inspired authors of Sacred Scripture. If you count the you shall nots along with the “you shalls” of keeping holy the Sabbath and honoring father and mother, you end up with 13 commandments. So the actual numbering of the commandments depends upon which you shall nots you lump together as one commandment and which ones you separate. And in the end, which you shall nots you lump together depends upon your theology. 4. We believe the Catholic Church alone has the authority to give to Gods people an authoritative list of the Ten Commandments. And the Catechism of the Catholic Church does exactly that. At least, it gives us a list as a sure norm for us. 5. The problem with creating a second commandment where there actually is not one really comes to the fore at the bottom of the list. The common Protestant listing of the Ten Commandments combines coveting your neighbors wife, the Catholic ninth commandment, with coveting your neighbors property, the Catholic tenth commandment. And really it just can’t be any other way because you run out of room. I cant imagine many women being happy with being equated to property! Some may argue at this point: Well, that is what the Old Testament teaches. We’re just going with what the inspired author teaches.” Are you really? Lets take a look. Now, it is true that Exodus 20s version of the 10 commandments appears to place both women and servants in the place of property. You shall not covet your neighbors house; you shall not covet your neighbors wife, or his manservant, or his maidservant, or his ox, or his donkey, or anything that is your neighbors. I say it “appears” to do so because Genesis 1:26-27 does reveal God himself to have said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. There is an essential equality between male and female revealed even in the Old Testament, though this revelation is not as clear and unambiguous as what we have in the New Testament. Exodus 20 certainly does anything but add to the clarity of the point. When I say the revelation of this essential equality is not as clear in the Old Testament, we need to understand why this is so. The Old Testament consists of 46 books written over a period of ca. 1500 years, representing a progressive revelation. Hebrews 1:1-2 says, In many and various ways God spoke of old to our fathers by the prophets. The Greek word for many ways is polumeros, which means in many portions; God gave his revelation in piecemeal fashion over the centuries, taking an ancient people right where they were and gradually beginning to reveal more and more truth as they were able to receive it and as he gradually gave them more and more grace to be able to receive it, all the while respecting their freedom. But when the time had fully come, God sent forth his Son (Galatians 4:4) to communicate the fullness of the revelation God willed for his people. For example, the divorce God permitted in Deut. 24:1-4, he later says [he] hates in Malachi 2:16. And when Jesus elevated marriage to the level of sacrament eliminating divorce and remarriage absolutely in Matt. 19:5-6, he explained that this allowance by God through Moses was never intended from the very beginning citing Genesis 2:24, the two shall become one flesh. God permitted things early that he would not have ever willed in an antecedent sense as he helped his people to grow much like a parent does not treat a four year-old the same as he would treat a fourteen year-old. In a similar way, though God revealed the essential equality of man and woman very early in salvation history (Gen. 1:26-27), this revelation was given by God to an ancient people who did not have the same understanding of the essential equality of man and woman we so often take for granted given the fullness of revelation we have enjoyed in the New Covenant for 2,000 years. God did not expect his people to change immediately, nor did he give them the fullness of the revelation that we have in Christ all at once; rather, he helped them along as weve said. In fact, we can see this development of understanding even in the Old Testament itself. We cited the earlier version of the Ten Commandments in Exodus 20, but notice the change by the time God gave his people Deuteronomy: Neither shall you covet your neighbors wife; and you shall not desire your neighbors house, his field, or his manservant, or his maidservant, his ox. Or his donkey, or anything that is your neighbors. The inspired author of Deuteronomy now makes the distinction between wife and property sharper by using two different Hebrew words for covet and desire and by only using the word covet with regard to the wife. The two separate commandments now become undeniable. Well leave the discussion of the status of the servants for another blog post! 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Good reference.
Just one? Keep My Shabbat, keep it holy, through all your generations.
Luther reduced nothing. The ones instituted by God have a visible element to which God has joined His Word of promise and offers gives and seals forgiveness of sin that was earned by Christ.
Beautiful! Just 10 do’s and don’ts on stone tablets no less. Kind of makes man made Catechisms on endless pages of parchment look silly.
So Protestantism is a work of Satan. Agreed.
Luther got rid of four of the Sacraments and kept three. Please show me your evidence that contradicts history.
God didn’t have seven sacraments in the Bible. Where is forgiveness of sins in marriage? Catholics had them by accretion.
Please read the link at post # 16.
Had already read it, where is the scriptural proof of forgiveness of sin?
You are ignoring Tradition and for that we have no more to talk about.
And for the sake of Tradition, you ignore scripture Matt 15:9.
Baptism
Acts 2:38-39; Acts 16:15, 16:33, 18:8; 1 Cor 1:16 ... suggests baptism of all, incl. children. Jn 3:5; Rom 6:4; Mk 16:16 ... necessity of baptism. Col 2:11-12 ... circumcision (normally performed on infants c.f. Lk 2:21; Gen 17:12) replaced by baptism. Acts 22:16 ... baptism removes sin. 1 Pet 3:21 ... baptism saves by water.
Eucharist
Mt 26:26-27; Mk 14:22,24; Lk 22:19-20; 1 Cor 11:24-25 ... this is my body ... this is my blood. 1 Cor 11:26-30 ... sinning against the body and blood. Jn 6:32-58 ... long discourse on Eucharist. Gen 14:18; Ps 110:4; Heb 7:1-17 ... Melchizedek. Acts 2:42 ... breaking of bread. Ps 14:4; Ps 53:4; Is 9:18-20; Is 49:26; Micah 3:2-3; Rev 17:6,16 ... symbolic interpretation of Jn 6 inappropriate. Ex 12:8,46 ... paschal lamb has to be eaten. Jn 1:29; 1 Cor 5:7 ... Jesus is lamb of God, paschal lamb. Jn 4:31-34; Mt 16:5-12 ... Jesus speaks symbolically of food.
Forgiveness of Sins
Jn 20:22-23 ... “if you forgive ... they are forgiven.” Mt 18:18 ... binding on earth and heaven. 2 Cor 5:18 ... ministry of reconciliation. Jas 5:14-16 ... forgiveness of sins, anointing of the sick, confession.
Priesthood
Acts 1:15-26; 2 Tim 2:2; Tit 1:5 ...unbroken succession. Acts 15:6,23; Acts 14:23; 1 Tim 4:14, 5:22; 1 Tim 5:17; Jas 5:13-15 ... presbyters/elders (priests) were ordained, preached and taught the flock, administered sacraments. Jn 8:56; Lk 16:24; Rom 4:1,16-18; 1 Cor 4:14-15; Acts 7:2; 1 Thess 2:11; 1 Jn 2:13-14 ... “call no one father”? 1 Cor 7:7-9 ... Paul unmarried. Mt 19:12; 1 Cor 7:32-33, 1 Tim 4:11-12 ... celibacy. Gen 14:18; Ps 110:4; Heb 7:1-17 ... Melchizedek. 1 Cor 12 ... different roles of members of body.
Your list shows priesthood as a sacrament?
Haven’t you ever heard of the Sacrament of Holy Orders?
Three steps in it.
Deacon
Priest
Episcopate (Bishop)
There is no forgiveness of sin that incurs by becoming a priest. Not a biblical sacrament. The other three you listed are sacraments.
Christ breathed on the apostles and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit, whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; whose sins you shall retain, they are retained.”
That power is passed on the each and every priest when they are ordained by a Bishop.
Straight from the Bible. Why don’t you believe it?
I believe that the clergy has the right and the duty to forgive sins in the stead and by the command of Jesus. Thre question is does being a priest incur for the priest forgiveness of sin? If not, then it is no sacrament.
Pfft. The truth is that the Catholic Church has no exclusive authority to distribute/interpret the Word of God. To say otherwise (as this author clearly did) establishes a barrier to salvation. All of these writings of/from the Catholic Church do is to reinforce that point.
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