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To: NYer

“,,,what we call the Tridentine Mass or Missal of Pope John XXIII, as something that needed to be fixed. Nothing was broken.”

Exactly. That’s what’s so puzzling to me. When the Catholic Church became so powerful, esp. in the United State, with the election of a Catholic President and Abp. Fulton Sheen who was more popular than Milton Berle on TV presenting Catholic THEOLOGY, no less-—WHY would they “fix” anything and destroy that momentum-—unless the whole calling of Vatican II was a ruse to destroy the Church from within-—which is the immediate effect of Vatican II.

What Vatican II did —was Marxism actually and a “wishy washy” Catholicism——ditching the most beautiful and longest Traditions-—FOR WHAT-—Protestant ideas?????????? which created thousands of denominations over a period of a few hundred years where they now have sodomites as pastors???? WHY?

The Logic of Vatican II defies Reason. And any Thomist knows how sickening that is to any Catholic theologian.


3 posted on 02/01/2014 2:45:00 PM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: savagesusie

I distinguish between Vatican II and “the Spirit of Vatican II.”

The “spirit” killeth, but the letter giveth life.


4 posted on 02/01/2014 2:53:07 PM PST by Mad Dawg (In te, Domine, speravi: non confundar in aeternum.)
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To: savagesusie
When the Catholic Church became so powerful, esp. in the United State, ...

I believe you intended to say the Latin Church. There are 22 churches that make up the Catholic Church. VCII proved to be a gift to the 21 Eastern Catholic Churches which were encouraged to restore their authentic liturgies. Meanwhile, the Latin Church progressed into the Novus Ordo liturgy that has caused so much consternation among the Roman Catholics here and around the world.

37 posted on 02/02/2014 2:21:48 PM PST by NYer ("The wise man is the one who can save his soul. - St. Nimatullah Al-Hardini)
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