Disputatio pro declaratione virtutis indulgentiarum
Posted on 01/23/2014 12:12:50 PM PST by marshmallow
What has intrigued me most about Pope Francis is not the way in which Catholics -- well, most of them, anyway -- have embraced him but the way in which countless Protestants have moved into his fan club.
More is at play here than simple celebrity in our overwrought pop culture. At least, I hope so.
The Protestant fascination with him hasn't broken down the many theological, liturgical and structural barriers that still exist between Protestantism and Catholicism, but it has softened them a bit and it has caused some Protestants to want to figure out what makes Francis tick, what Jesuit theology is all about and what ground we Protestants might share in common with Catholics.
My own congregation is a good example of this phenomenon. Our pastor, Paul Rock, recently began a sermon series he's calling "Jesus, the Pope and a Protestant Walk Into a Bar." His sermons, which started Sunday, can be found here [1].
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have embraced him but the way in which countless Protestants have moved into his fan club....
The Protestant fascination with him ...caused some Protestants to want to figure out what makes Francis tick, what Jesuit theology is all about and what ground we Protestants might share in common with Catholics.
What protestants, I wonder?
Not me.
Present.
Why don't you take a poll here and find out. Here's my vote: I have zero fascination for this Marxist Pope, and the Papacy period. "Stirs Protestant hearts?" Give me a break!
I’ve never done one! Are you one of the three I mentioned?
I think so, I’m to the right of Ian Paisley.
You are always a Catholic because that mark of Baptism is always on your soul —— forever.
You can come back at any time — just sit down with a priest and get your questions answered.
Disputatio pro declaratione virtutis indulgentiarum
If no one can escape being a Catholic once they are baptized as infants, then full fledged, adult Catholics walking out of the voting booth, and who are actual Catholics in fact and in self description of faith, are really and truly Catholics, even though most of them vote for pro-abortion, pro-gay, pro-immigration democrats.
The Catholic Church is not against the death. Says it should be used in certain cases. That’s also my stance. I was all for the death penalty for years. If the guy got death, fry him was my stance. Well when I realized that if you have money to buy the best lawyers you can be as guilty as hell as not get the death sentence. Sometimes be found not guilty when all the evidence proves you are quilty. It is rare that a man with money is put to death. Death row is crowded with those that didn’t have the money to buy their way out of it. When I finally came to the realization that the America judicial system is as crooked as any banana republic I changed my tune on the death penalty.
“I greatly admired President Kennedy and have adopted his tax cutting principles” ~ Ronald Reagan
That quote doesn’t show up, but Reagan sure as heck better have said it, it is is a great way to mock JFK while exploiting his fake, post death image.
Exploiting the dead JFK for political ends is a smart strategy.
In private, Reagan wrote that JFK was a lefty “Marxist”.
Either way, your post is a very strange response to post 29, which said,
“”If no one can escape being a Catholic once they are baptized as infants, then full fledged, adult Catholics walking out of the voting booth, and who are actual Catholics in fact and in self description of faith, are really and truly Catholics, even though most of them vote for pro-abortion, pro-gay, pro-immigration democrats.””
On second thought I get it, promoting the democrat party, their greatest hero, it fits with the fact that most Catholics are pro-abortion, pro-gay, pro-immigration voting democrats.
Ronald Reagan was a great fan of Jack Kennedy and said it many times. Probably the reason he stayed in the democrat party for so long.
No, Reagan despised JFK, now after JFK was deified after his death, then Reagan and all GOP politicians use him in a positive way to promote their ideas, and to not commit political suicide.
I hope we aren’t going to see a lot of untruths being promoted again against Reagan and promoting the democrat party and their greatest hero, the man who’s election killed America.
I realize that most Catholics vote for abortion and immigration, but really, please not here at FR.
Your quote in post 31 isn't accurate enough to find, but your claim right there is completely and utterly false, it seems deliberately false to me, since you have been corrected on that sickeningly anti-Reagan/pro-democrat claim before, it reads like something straight from DU.
We have the actual hand written letter from Reagan to the vice president of the United States requesting permission to help stop JFK, and saying that he was going to register republican, but the vice-president said that remaining registered as democrat would be more effective as Reagan fought to save America from JFK.
Much has changed since A.D. 1517 and A.D. 1530 (the adoption of the Augsburg Confession) but not everything.
The signing of the Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification (JDDJ) in Augburg on Reformation Day of 1999 was the beginning of the end of the Reformation; but the Vatican’s announcment of the Millenial Jubilee Indulgences just a few weeks later proved that the JDDJ breakthrough was akin to D-Day...still a lot of hard work ahead.
Reagan despised JFK?
“Many men are great, but few capture the imagination and the spirit of the times. The ones who do are unforgettable. Four administrations have passed since John Kennedy’s death, five presidents have occupied the Oval Office, and I feel sure that each of them thought of John Kennedy now and then, and his thousand days in the White House” ~ Ronald Reagan 1985
That was a Peggy Noonan (Obama voter) written speech, for President Reagan to give at a fund-raiser for the John F. Kennedy Presidential Library, in 1985.
In private, in a hand written letter, Reagan revealed what he thought about JFK, and thank you for giving me the opportunity to expose this to more freepers.
Reagan in a personal, hand written letter to the vice President, describing JFK after JFK's nomination speech.
"I heard a frightening call to arms. Unfortunately he is a powerful speaker with an appeal to the emotions. He leaves little doubt that his idea of the “challenging new world” is one in which the Federal Govt. will grow bigger & do more and of course spend more. I know there must be some short sighted people in the Republican Party who will advise that the Republicans should try to “out liberal” him. In my opinion this would be fatal."
"One last thought,— shouldn’t some one tag Mr. Kennedy’s bold new imaginative program with it’s proper age? Under the tousled boyish hair cut it is still old Karl Marx—first launched a century ago."
Please cite the link THAT PROVES Peggy Noonan voted for Obama.
“In the 2012 presidential campaign, in the days prior to the November election, she expressed optimism for a Mitt Romney victory over Barack Obama because she said she saw happy faces and optimism among Republicans”.
It is sure bizarre to have to deal with the democrat element here.
You might want to look at some of the old threads we anti-democrat conservatives were reading at freerepublic during the 2008 election.
It appears that Noonan voted with the Catholics in 2008.
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