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Los Angeles Attorney: Many Abuse Claims Against Catholic Priests are ‘Entirely False’
TheMediaReport.com ^ | January 2, 2011 | TheMediaReport.com

Posted on 01/18/2014 11:23:29 AM PST by Salvation

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To: verga
Seriously I had to read that three times just to get a handle on the adjective order.

Any one well acquainted with the writings of the Church Fathers should be able to handle it quite proficiently.

321 posted on 01/21/2014 2:10:53 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: redleghunter

I saw what you did there...


322 posted on 01/21/2014 2:11:25 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: redleghunter

I would never have suspected..... snerk!


323 posted on 01/21/2014 2:12:24 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Gamecock

>> Investigated many claims?

The possibility of false claims disappoints you, doesn’t it?


324 posted on 01/21/2014 2:16:02 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Elsie

And I never “ratted” on anyone either. In a HS made up of mostly Irish and Italians a rat did not last long:)


325 posted on 01/21/2014 2:20:09 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: fr_freak

By pure chance I turned on Fox News just now, and there is a new case out of Chicago of the archdiocese there doing exactly what I said, moving pedophile priests from one place to another several times, and telling nobody. Now they say they are “working to regain trust”. If it was your kid, would you ever trust them?

You can make whatever lame defenses you want, but it only hurts your cause. You won’t convince anyone who isn’t a koolaid drinker.


326 posted on 01/21/2014 3:16:35 PM PST by Hugin
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To: Hugin
By pure chance I turned on Fox News just now, and there is a new case out of Chicago of the archdiocese there doing exactly what I said, moving pedophile priests from one place to another several times, and telling nobody.

Well, gosh, thanks for being specific.

Nobody denies that this sort of thing has happened on the Church's watch. Where you are wrong is making silly statements that these things are covered up in some vast conspiracy to molest children. It's ridiculous.

You and the other yahoos on here try to use these events to discredit the entire Church, and that is where your feeble attempts at logic and reason fail, as well as where your bias is revealed. You are trying to use unfortunate events that represent only a fraction of the total Church to discredit the entire Church, and that is not only silly, but intellectually dishonest.

So by all means, keep on with your drooling Catholic-hatred. Just don't expect others to fall for your meager attempts at justifying it.
327 posted on 01/21/2014 3:23:23 PM PST by fr_freak
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To: Gene Eric

No. But one valid claim of the Roman Catholic Church participating in shuttling apchild molesters from parish to parish should outrage every decent person.


328 posted on 01/21/2014 4:11:14 PM PST by Gamecock (Celebrating 20,000 posts of dubious quality.)
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To: fr_freak
You and the other yahoos on here try to use these events to discredit the entire Church,

I'm not trying to discredit anyone. Frankly I don't care that much. It's not my church. You say it wasn't widespread, and I should cite examples like I've been compiling a list over the last three decades or so these stories have been reported. How about you cite the cases where church officials have come forward and turned child rapists over to the police for prosecution? Show me where that has happened and maybe your defense would be a tiny bit credible.

329 posted on 01/21/2014 4:28:15 PM PST by Hugin
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To: Gamecock

Are you making the charge that Catholics are not outraged about the exceptional claim to the article?


330 posted on 01/21/2014 4:31:20 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric

I see a distinct lack of outrage on FR.

All I see here is rationalization.

Examples:

1. Other people abuse children
2. People that talk about this are bashing Roman Catholics
3. It’s not as bad as they say


331 posted on 01/21/2014 5:25:22 PM PST by Gamecock (Celebrating 20,000 posts of dubious quality.)
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To: Gamecock

Here it is: your outrage is inconsequential. MSM is doing the best to satisfy your lust for blood. Thank them.


332 posted on 01/21/2014 5:28:00 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: Gamecock

Well, here’s a huge amount of outrage right here, and among pretty much every Catholic I know. No tolerance. None. I, for one, would be perfectly happy to play Pinata with an aluminum bat on any perpetrator found, with extra hits for any who cover it up or enable it.


333 posted on 01/21/2014 5:34:25 PM PST by AbnSarge
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To: Gamecock

Well, I see the distinct exploitation of child abuse to revile Catholics as a whole.


334 posted on 01/21/2014 6:05:56 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: AbnSarge

Well Airborne, glad to see at least one FRoman Catholic outraged.


335 posted on 01/21/2014 6:10:50 PM PST by Gamecock (Celebrating 20,000 posts of dubious quality.)
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To: Revolting cat!

If Rome had done the right thing from the beginning we wouldn’t be having this discussion, now would we?


336 posted on 01/21/2014 6:12:34 PM PST by Gamecock (Celebrating 20,000 posts of dubious quality.)
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To: fr_freak; Hugin
Where you are wrong is making silly statements that these things are covered up in some vast conspiracy to molest children.

Moving the goalposts, eh?

Now non-Catholics are being accused of stating there's a conspiracy to molest children? Just where did you see that?

Link please...

337 posted on 01/21/2014 6:18:04 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: Hugin

“How about you cite the cases where church officials have come forward and turned child rapists over to the police for prosecution? Show me where that has happened and maybe your defense would be a tiny bit credible.”


From:
Archdiocese of Washington
Annual Report from the Child Protection Advisory Board
July 1, 2011-June 30, 2012

Allegations against archdiocesan clergy in this reporting period. One allegation of child abuse was received involving an archdiocesan priest who had been previously accused,removed from ministry, and is deceased. The allegation, which was made by a relative of the
victim, alleged conduct occurring in 1971-1972. Although the accused was deceased, the Archdiocese reported the allegation to the civil authorities as required by archdiocesan policy and offered assistance with counseling and pastoral care for the victim.

Allegations against lay employees, contract workers and others in this reporting period. One allegation of child abuse was received involving a former lay employee who
worked in a parish. The allegation involved conduct occurring in 2001. The Archdiocese reported the allegation to the civil authorities, cooperated in their investigation and provided assistance with counseling and pastoral care for the victim.


I am a parent of a kid in Catholic school. Before I or anyone else (parent, staff, priest, etc) can work around children, we must be fingerprinted, undergo a background check, and attend training on what to do, not do, reporting responsibilities, and identifying potential abusers.

Atrocious things happened, and the past cannot be changed. No one wants to see it ever happen again.


338 posted on 01/21/2014 7:05:57 PM PST by AbnSarge
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To: Hugin

I hope you are a young person, because you will be waiting a very long time.


339 posted on 01/21/2014 8:26:01 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: Gene Eric

The subject thread article presents such a conclusion.


340 posted on 01/21/2014 8:29:31 PM PST by redleghunter
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