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To: ravenwolf; knarf
**The biggest arguments are over what did Jesus actually say?**

How many times does Jesus have to tell you that he is the bread of life, and you still don't believe him?  And you still don't receive the REAL transubstantiated Communion?

 

John, chapter 6

 

 

35* Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me will never hunger, and whoever believes in me will never thirst.q

48 I am the bread of life.

53 Jesus said to them, “Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.

54 Whoever eats* my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day.

55 For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink.

56 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him.

63It is the spirit that gives life, while the flesh* is of no avail. The words I have spoken to you are spirit and life.

65And he said, “For this reason I have told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted him by my Father.”


139 posted on 01/12/2014 1:22:08 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

How many times does Jesus have to tell you that he is the bread of life, and you still don’t believe him? And you still don’t receive the REAL transubstantiated Communion?


It is strange to me that you take this literal as eating his flesh rather than living by his word but you do not believe some of the other things he said.

Matthew 23
9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

John 14
15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
Here is one of his commandments
Exodus 20
8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

Luke 22
14 And when the hour was come, he sat down, and the twelve apostles with him

19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.

If you want to believe that Jesus was talking about the wine and bread becoming his actual flesh its ok by me but i do not believe that and also believe it was only said for the benefit of the apostles.

But since it was mentioned by Paul i see nothing wrong with it but i do not see it as having anything to do with being saved.

And i do not see it as a commandment to any one other than the twelve..


164 posted on 01/12/2014 2:30:25 PM PST by ravenwolf
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