There was much controversy over the hypothetical "lies! I have been cheated!" that His Holiness allows, "perhaps", Our Lady "had the urge to say".
This is the complete homily.
1 posted on
12/31/2013 1:05:45 PM PST by
annalex
To: annalex
He should practice it as well at times.
To: annalex
Very little is said that’s important. Silence is a very good thing. We have a lot to learn from Mary.
3 posted on
12/31/2013 1:17:29 PM PST by
mlizzy
("If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic Adoration, abortion would be ended." --Mother Teresa)
To: NYer; Salvation; narses; ebb tide; piusv; BlatherNaut
See this vituperative thread:
"Lies! I Was Cheated" -- Pope Francis' Daring Statement About Mary A few points.
- Temptation is not sinful. Our Lady was tempted and Our Savior was tempted.
- Concupiscence is a disordered appetite. Natural appetites such as hunger, thirst, or intellectual appetite for analytic review of past assumption is not concupiscence. The Pope allows that Mary, perhaps, was tempted to review her understanding of the promise of Archangel Gabriel; that does not contradict the absence of concupiscence in her.
- The Pope concludes that whatever temptation Our Lady experienced, she emerged from it in silence and "with this silence she left this mystery so that it could grow and flourish in hope". Note also that the homily is on the value of silence. In this passage the Pope is teaching us that we, too, should address temptations with silence. The Pope is not teaching that we should call God names nor that Mary did.
- Homily is oral speech, not a written and polished encyclical. Some compared the homily with Redemptoris Mater by John Paul II. Let us not forget that the comparison is between two very different literary styles.
4 posted on
12/31/2013 1:19:25 PM PST by
annalex
(fear them not)
To: annalex
Correction: It is not the complete text — I don’t think it has been published, — but at least it reports on the entire homily.
5 posted on
12/31/2013 1:20:40 PM PST by
annalex
(fear them not)
To: annalex
The important thing is that she said “yes,” be it done unto me according to thy will.
However, what the Pope said was pretty inoffensive and I have heard it in sermons over many years. In other words, being the mother of the Messiah really didn’t give you any special perks (although it actually was the dream, the “winning lottery” for generations of Jewish women) and in fact even the Messiah himself didn’t get any perks.
So let’s not flip out over this.
21 posted on
12/31/2013 1:59:32 PM PST by
livius
To: annalex
Yep, because this thread’s purpose was ALL about being intellectually honest and NOTHING about making examples of fellow “Catholics”.
LOL
23 posted on
12/31/2013 2:17:14 PM PST by
piusv
To: annalex
When I think of Mary and silence I always think of her last words in the Bible at the Wedding of Cana:
"Do whatever he tells you."
Mary always directs us back to her Son, Jesus Christ, fully human and fully God.
34 posted on
01/01/2014 9:48:03 AM PST by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: annalex; piusv; BlatherNaut; Salvation
This pretty much proves that Mary’s “silence” was the theme of that homily. And that pretty much proves that the silence she actually kept was being contrasted with a hypothetical spoken outburst that we all know did not happen.
Is it wrong in a sermon to say, “Perhaps Jesus was thinking “This die on the cross stuff is BS, God”, but His attitude instead was that of the suffering servant.”
40 posted on
01/04/2014 5:50:59 AM PST by
xzins
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