Posted on 12/30/2013 5:05:33 PM PST by Salvation
**Mary and Joseph’s relationship wasn’t based on common interests or similar personalities. While they may have been very compatible, this wasn’t the basis of their unity. Their relationship with God was the foundation of their marriage, and it was this strength that held them together during trials.**
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Catholic Ping!
Ultimate goal: to BE a holy family.
Holiness is spiritual wholeness. What the devil gives you is a spiritual picture that is cleverly expurgated. It is what we commonly call a curse.
One very helpful trait will be for all members of the family to bless one another (in God). If Christ said to bless our enemies, shouldn’t we bless our loved ones too? And if loved ones squabble and become “enemies” for a period, the way to solve it is, again, to bless. Families that have prolonged mutual cursing in them will, at best, be empty shells full of hells.
This is a pan-Christian advice. If you want answers that are solely out of the Catholic playbook, then by all means delete my message.
marry a pregnant girl
never have sex
lose your kid on a trip
. . .just kidding- i’m protestant- they had sex
And you do not need to be nasty about it. Mary, fallen or not, had more grace than you are showing.
But bless your soul anyhow. You need it badly right now.
I have a sad confession to make. I ran over the Virgin Mary recently.
I was driving on I-8 and the car in front of me swerved. I couldn’t swerve, and ran over what it had avoided. What it had avoided got stuck under my engine, between the front wheels. Loud dragging noise!
I pulled off the interstate, onto the shoulder. It was about 3 foot high plastic Virgin Mary, kneeling, in prayer. There were two holes, each the size of a 100 watt light bulb. My daughter was able to reach under, thread a rope through the two holes, and we were able to pull it out from under the truck.
Gosh! I guess I need to say some ‘Hail Mary’s.
and more of a sense of humor than you are showing
it’s a joke
just a joke
Yup, carrying on like C. S. Lewis described in Screwtape Letters. Say something prideful and offensive then back off when called on it, saying you were only kidding.
Stephen Frye said while in Utah he was given a tour of a Mormon museum. At the end of it, the lady giving the tour said, she wanted to give people a brief idea of the religion.
She said that their religion taught that after death, families would all be reunited, to be together forever.
Stephen Frye asked “And what would happen to you if you were good?”
The nice lady invited him to leave.
which part of my comment is not part of catholic doctrine? the prideful part or the offensive part?
i identified the uniquely protestant part- that they had sex after the birth of jesus- the other parts (the assumed prideful and offensive parts) are, i believe consistent with catholic teaching- and with the exception of the ‘never have sex’ part consistent with protestant teaching as well
i stand by my joke- which i identified as such (not backing away as you suggest) in my first comment
will
I thought it was kind of funny.
I don’t think so. Mary was the Ark of the New Covenant. She was pure so that Christ, being pure, could be in her womb.
Remember how people who touched the Ark of the Old Covenant died? It’s my belief that if anyone had touched Mary sexually they would have likewise died.
why just sexually
people in the old testament didn’t die when they touched the ark of the covenant sexually
they died when they touched the ark of the covenant- period
why only sexual touch with mary would result in death?
seriously, even if you believe they never had sex, do think joseph never made physical contact- even innocent physical contact with her and never had a sexual thought at the same time
i guess that could explain why joseph died at some point before jesus’ ministry
People in the Old Testament died when they touched the Ark of the Covenant, period.
What don’t you get about the Bible there.
Mary was a perpetual virgin. Haven’t you ever heard that?
i’ve heard of it- just don’t find it consistent with scripture
Matthew 1:24-25: And Joseph rising up from sleep, did as the angel of the Lord had commanded him, and took unto him his wife. And he knew her not till she brought forth her firstborn
i know catholics interpret that differently, but if i had a daughter and it was recorded in scripture that she and a male did not come together until after their second date, i would not view that as a proof text for her ever-virginity- and i doubt you would either- regardless of whether she said it in english or greek
and please don’t assume i agree with luther or calvin or anyone else in totalitarity- especially luther or calvin
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