Posted on 12/28/2013 3:59:04 PM PST by NYer
Oprah tells them that its more important to be spiritual than religious...They stop attending church because they don’t agree with one part of doctrine...Can't argue with this!!
Basically, they believe they hold all knowledge on their cell phone. They can publish their beliefs for the whole world to see via the phone everytime they discover that they believe something new. They can reach out and buy things on their phone.
So, they worship the phone...
Because there’s no place else to go. The Catholic Church only has the faithin its entirety, and the sacraments through which we encounter God’s will for us. The lazy and stupid excuses that the church can be ignored till she becomes what we say she must be are evidence of a grave spiritual disorder in which the creature presumes to judge its creator.
Remember that we had leadership trouble from the git-go. The Apostles lived with Jesus for 3 1/2 years, knew the direct gaze of His eyes and the sound of His voice, received Communion from His very hands. And then, at the point of crisis, that dreadful day when one Apostle betrayed Christ, one denied 3 times that he even knew Him, and the rest, cowards, scrambled for the tall grass. With the solitary exception of John the son of Zebedee.
And that dreadful time, 500 years ago, when every single Catholic Bishop in Britain decided that Henry VIII was fit to be head of the Church of England, adulterer, apostate, church-looter and murderer though he was. With the solitary exception of Bishop John Fisher.
Take heed and be faithful. The tares grow with the wheat and choke it. He knows that. Suffer for Christ. Suffer with Him. Pray for sinners.
There's no other way ---no other way --- to help them, or yourself, become a bit more worthy as human beings.
Problem is, where are the men?
Jesus Christ.
Churches that are Biblically accurate and culturally relevant are growing like crazy.
People see whether a church is congruent with its message. They know whether the message is meaningful.
Churches that fail one or both are shrinking - and this without regard to denomination.
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How exactly do you expect Christ to affect the rebellious communicant who is content to receive, and remain unconverted?
A major reason is that many choose to leave the denomination for a different Christian denomination.
In my opinion—— for what it’s worth-——is that there has been a decades long organized plan to disrupt and conquer institutions such as the Catholic Church and others. I believe that the Marxist faggot element has particularly targeted the seminaries and act as gatekeepers to repel as many straight honest applicants as possible. Over the years they have gradually increased their numbers and risen in rank in the Church hierarchy gaining more and more power.
I read a story over 30 years ago by a Catholic trying to sound the alarm over this insidious invasion. When mentioning to it to Catholics-— and even non-Catholics-—I felt like I was in a lone B-17 over 1943 Berlin.
The more I read of Scripture, the bigger difference between it and the teachings of the Catholic church I saw.
It finally reached a breaking point and the Word of God won out.
There are hundreds, maybe thousands of excuses for leaving the Catholic Church, but only two real reasons: 1) Unconfessed sin
2) Poor Catechesis.
Please remember that poor physical and mental health is often the direct result of poor spiritual health.
Yes? I know who he is.
I was received (Baptism, Confirmation, Eucharist)) into the Church in 2009. I am probably one of the more traditionally minded in our small rural VA parish. What drew me into the Church, was not quite what I found. It seems that some in the Church are more interested in a worldly kingdom (social things), not a heavenly one(true conversion). Maybe the lack of pastoral challenge against our sinfulness keeps people away.
“There are hundreds, maybe thousands of excuses for leaving the Catholic Church, but only two real reasons: 1) Unconfessed sin 2) Poor Catechesis.”
This is also exactly what mormons teach.
What i believe is what i see in Scripture and in effect. As regards the latter here, I was a RC, a weekly participant, a CCD teacher and lector, and believed in good faith that the Eucharist was the Real Presence, and received it conscience permitting. And i even rationalized the evangelical preachers that i heard and who blessed me so much must be eating it to have such anointing.
But receiving the Eucharist or not had no real effect on me, or the multitudes whom i knew and saw receive it. Most were as dead as i was before i become born again by real repentance and faith in Christ to save me, and which effected a profound change in my heart and life .
That is when i received spiritual life in myself, as per Jn. 6:53, not in physically eating, which is never how anyone received spiritual life in themselves.
And and to eat and thus live by Jesus is to do as He did, "As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me," (John 6:57) which was not by physically eating the Father, but by living by every word which came from Him. (Mt. 4:4) making doing His will to be the Lord's "meant." (Jn. 4:34)
A RC would get far more out of listening to some good evangelical preaching than looking for spiritual life by physically eating.
The state of being blind or lacking sight. It was new for me also.
See 56 above.
I was received into the Church in 2001, via EWTN. Of course I found neither the piety, reverence nor the teaching anywhere in my diocese to even begin to compare with EWTN, nor even a single effort in the diocese to accommodate the Extraordinary Form. The nearest accomodation is almost a 7 hour drive.
The parish churches are stripped now, taking on the appearance of protestant churches, along with guitars and 2nd grade level lyrics in many of the song selections. No silence to speak of, because music has prime of place. The sign of Peace is out of control, exaggerated now, into other rows and scandalously across the aisles and back, even extending cheerfully into the Lamb of God prayer.
I wretch at the fall of the Mass every single Sunday, but I would NEVER miss a Mass. I am outraged and revolted every Sunday, but I would never miss a Mass. My heart is pierced by the abuses I witness, but I would never miss a Mass.
I made a pact with God Himself to acknowledge that He is there in the Mass and He is pained also, but He is there for me, in Holy Communion, and I must be there for Him to receive Him.
All He asks is for me to endure unto the End.
He warned us in Sacred Scripture what was to come, and it is here. We did it to ourselves and we accept His warning— that but a remnant of even the faithful will be saved— that were not the days shortened even the very elect would be lost. I believe Him. He knows of the outrage, pain and disgust.
“....and you, my brothers and sisters to pray for me to the Lord our God.”
Have a blessed Christmas and a blessed New Year.
“Basically, they believe they hold all knowledge on their cell phone.....”
I laughed when I read this ... then I realized what you wrote is actually quite true.
It is truly a sad world when objects are worshiped rather than Almighty God.
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