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To: NYer
Yes, but you can still pay the church for an annulment that makes it okay to get communion after you divorce, then you can remarry and take communion.

Sorry, that's flat out hypocritical nonsense, a gerrymandering of reality.

6 posted on 12/26/2013 9:02:01 AM PST by Lakeshark (Mr Reid, tear down this law!)
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To: Lakeshark

** that’s flat out hypocritical nonsense, a gerrymandering of reality.**

And how do you know this? Are you the interviewer here?


8 posted on 12/26/2013 9:06:23 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Lakeshark
Yes, but you can still pay the church for an annulment that makes it okay to get communion after you divorce, then you can remarry and take communion.

Not always true. I know of several cases where the money was spent on the case, and the annulment was NOT granted. In fact, that was the result of a manority attempted annulments among people I know. And I know many more cases where the parties didn't even attempt annulment because they knew they were married, but must separate (physical abuse).
9 posted on 12/26/2013 9:14:24 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There's no salvation in politics.)
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To: Lakeshark

“...pay the church for an annulment “
This reply is not to defend the pope in the subject critical content, but to address your comment. You perhaps do not understand the definition of “annulment”. An annulment doesn’t allow people to remarry. All it does is make official record that a discovery has been made that a marriage between the two concerned parties never legitimately took place. (This is consistent with Jesus’ words that (paraphrased) “What God has joined let no man divide.”) And until a serious investigation is made, which can require numerous resources, such discovery is not possible, and the Church therefor assumes that the marriage truly exists based upon prior readily observed evidence.
(Just as a defendant doesn’t buy justice from his lawyer, neither does one buy an annulment; they must however pay for services toward discovery. More can be found in the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
Thanks for your interest in these matters!


13 posted on 12/26/2013 9:52:11 AM PST by Repent and Believe (Promote good. Tolerate the harmless. Let evil be crushed.)
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To: Lakeshark
Yes, but you can still pay the church for an annulment that makes it okay to get communion after you divorce, then you can remarry and take communion.

The "cost" of the annulment is for the investigation. The tribunal does a through investigation to determine if the sacrament has been confected (performed) correctly. This is a lengthy process that takes a lot of time and paperwork. Not everyone that applies for one gets one and depending on financial circumstances the fee can be waved.

That being said: Yes there have been abuses to the system, but you don't blame the system you blame the individuals.

28 posted on 12/26/2013 1:17:52 PM PST by verga (The devil is in the details)
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To: Lakeshark
Yes, but you can still pay the church for an annulment that makes it okay to get communion after you divorce, then you can remarry and take communion.

Are you familiar with the church's annulment process?

29 posted on 12/26/2013 1:50:43 PM PST by NYer ("The wise man is the one who can save his soul. - St. Nimatullah Al-Hardini)
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To: Lakeshark
For your information -- the definition of an annulment:

ANNULMENT

 

Official declaration by competent authority that, for lawful reasons, a previous act or contract was invalid and consequently null and void. In ecclesiastical law, annulments mainly apply to marriage contracts over which the Church has the right to determine their validity. (Etym. Latin an-, to + nullus, none; annullare, to annihilate, to annul.)

All items in this dictionary are from Fr. John Hardon's Modern Catholic Dictionary, © Eternal Life. Used with permission.


33 posted on 12/26/2013 3:29:23 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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