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1 posted on 12/26/2013 8:42:16 AM PST by NYer
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2 posted on 12/26/2013 8:42:39 AM PST by NYer ("The wise man is the one who can save his soul. - St. Nimatullah Al-Hardini)
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The Pope should exclaim at the top of his lungs the glory of free market capitalism. No other system known to man has uplifted more people from the bondage of slavery and poverty than capitalism.


3 posted on 12/26/2013 8:46:15 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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Very interesting...to re-phrase, is the article saying that the Pope is perhaps naive in regard to how his communications are interpreted? Not that being "sophisticated" is so ideal, but certainly some of his remarks and "teachings" have been highly regarded and acclaimed by various left-wingers, particularly regarding matters of capitalism, homosexuality, and probably various other tenets and morays I haven't heard about yet!

What he really meant is not so helpful after the fact if his words are misunderstood, not understood, or interpreted wrongly or maliciously. He seems a good man, so let's hope he duly considers this potential problem and improves upon his "teaching & preaching" skills! He is so highly regarded and could certainly be a good influence on the world, including on non-Catholics...

5 posted on 12/26/2013 9:01:47 AM PST by 88keys ("work and purpose"...)
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Yes, but you can still pay the church for an annulment that makes it okay to get communion after you divorce, then you can remarry and take communion.

Sorry, that's flat out hypocritical nonsense, a gerrymandering of reality.

6 posted on 12/26/2013 9:02:01 AM PST by Lakeshark (Mr Reid, tear down this law!)
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**Hopefully now that it has been brought to his attention, he will include the full truth with mercy in his future answers so as not to be misunderstood.**

I read this when it was linked somewhere else. Explains a lot.


7 posted on 12/26/2013 9:04:40 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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It seems to me that what Cardinal Meisner was trying to say is that the Pope's critics are ignorant of church teaching and that if they are that ignorant, then, of course, there will be misunderstandings and attacks, both within and without the Catholic Church. It is as if everyone expects the Pope to rewrite and restate all the Catholic Sacred Tradition and Sacred Scripture in every single his authoritative public statements and interviews.

Is that the Pope's problem, or his critics, is the question.

I think the answer lies in the same place as the answer to the question, who is in submission of mind and will to the Church and who is not and, hence, essentially taken themselves out of the Church?

It is always disappointing to see so many ready and willing to participate in the undermining and disobedience, due to their own pride and willful ignorance.

11 posted on 12/26/2013 9:27:56 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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Furthermore, when there are open theological questions, it’s up to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith to give detailed responses“.

Sounds like a Pontius Pilate washing his hands. First of all, it's not an "open theological question(s)"; it never has been since Christ spoke about it. Secondly, he shouldn't talk about that which he claims he can't "give detailed responses" to.

I thought he was the Vicar of Christ.

21 posted on 12/26/2013 11:07:21 AM PST by ebb tide
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" In short, the Pope doesn't know his audience well."

Sounds OK to me. There are more than enough politicians who tailor their message to their audience.

26 posted on 12/26/2013 12:41:16 PM PST by ex-snook (God is Love)
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Americans are so obsessed with personalities, that we are blind around ideas. Arguments on this forum whether Snowden is a traitor or patriot when as Sarah Palin herself observed (another reason to admire her) that the story is not about Snowden at all, and now and forever this Pope whom we have to define one way or another, describe in categorical terms and declarative sentences, while ignoring or incapable of comprehending the ideas.


31 posted on 12/26/2013 2:57:45 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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He strikes me as being naïve about the media.


42 posted on 12/27/2013 4:08:54 PM PST by TradicalRC (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus.)
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