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Is Jesus Christ God?
Christian Answers ^ | 2012 | Various

Posted on 12/22/2013 7:28:20 AM PST by DouglasKC

“The Christian faith has not been tried and found wanting. It has rather been found difficult and left untried.” —Chesterton

I am the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending.The story of Jesus is either the greatest event in history or the cruelest hoax. If it is a hoax, then the whole of the Christian message crumbles together with the hopes of those multitudes of lives built on his name. The apostle Paul said:

“And if Christ is not risen, then our preaching is empty and your faith is also empty. Yes, and we are found false witnesses of God, because we have testified of God that He raised up Christ, whom He did not raise up; if in fact the dead do not rise. For if the dead do not rise, then Christ is not risen. And if Christ is not risen, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins! Then also those who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished. If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men the most pitiable.” -1 Corinthians 15:14-19 (NKJV)

But if the story is true, then this world has been hit with extraordinary news of earth-shaking consequences. Have you taken the trouble to decide which it is?

In a matter this weighty, it is in your interest to explore the truth or falsity of Christ's claims. Amazingly however, many people who don't believe have never bothered to explore the evidence in support of Jesus,[1] but to the contrary, often run away from it. At the same time, many Christians themselves are not sure, at bottom, whether the claims of their faith are solid. Is the Christian claim a hoax? Is it just wishful thinking? Or is it actually true?

(Excerpt) Read more at christiananswers.net ...


TOPICS: General Discusssion; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: christianity; god; historicity; historicityofchrist; historicityofjesus; jesus; trinity
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To: DManA

So man will call him God. Leftists are doing that now with Obama. Should we go ahead and give him that as an official title?

http://obamamessiah.blogspot.com/


101 posted on 12/22/2013 2:00:13 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: DouglasKC
Catholic Answers Excerpt

The Trinity


The doctrine of the Trinity is encapsulated in Matthew 28:19, where Jesus instructs the apostles: "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit."

The parallelism of the Father, the Son, and the Spirit is not unique to Matthew’s Gospel, but appears elsewhere in the New Testament (e.g., 2 Cor. 13:14, Heb. 9:14), as well as in the writings of the earliest Christians, who clearly understood them in the sense that we do today—that the Father, the Son, and the Spirit are three divine persons who are one divine being (God).

 

The Didache

"After the foregoing instructions, baptize in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, in living [running] water. . . . If you have neither, pour water three times on the head, in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit" (Didache 7:1 [A.D. 70]).


102 posted on 12/22/2013 2:15:36 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Yes, that is proof that by 250 AD heresy had gripped some elements of the Church. They had to wait until all the early Disciples had died out for the belief that Jesus was God to take hold.

Then, as now, some were confused.


103 posted on 12/22/2013 2:39:43 PM PST by tedw
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To: HarleyD

But Jesus said “Of myself I can do nothing”

It is not I that doeth the works but the Father (paraphrase)


104 posted on 12/22/2013 2:41:41 PM PST by tedw
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To: Salvation

No one truly goes to links provided. Perhaps typing out your response would be better.


105 posted on 12/22/2013 2:51:08 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: Salvation
When Jesus was asked when the end was going to come he answered: ◄ Matthew 24:36 ► Parallel Verses New International Version "But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. ************************** If Jesus was God, why didn't he know? Why did he say only the Father knows? Twist and turn however you want but you are stuck with the reality that Jesus himself said he was less than God. Something that is inconsistent with Trinitarian belief. Jesus was a humble man and the messiah and Savior, but he never claimed to be God, only the Son of God. The reality is that *MOST* Christians are deceived on this point.
106 posted on 12/22/2013 2:52:55 PM PST by tedw
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To: Safrguns
How about we just start with the name the Angels said He would be called... Emanuel... Which means “God With Us”. Appropriate considering the season, and the Gospels where this is found.

That one alone always summed it up for me.

107 posted on 12/22/2013 2:53:09 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: GarySpFc

Ping. A most favorite subject for you.


108 posted on 12/22/2013 2:55:01 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: Resettozero; DouglasKC
I say yes and so is The Holy Spirit. What say you?

And be very careful how you answer. Answering wrongly in this case is a gigantic no-no.

109 posted on 12/22/2013 2:57:07 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: BipolarBob

LOL at your homepage. Have you been able to convert those gay chickens yet?:)


110 posted on 12/22/2013 3:03:21 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: Colonel_Flagg
And be very careful how you answer. Answering wrongly in this case is a gigantic no-no.

I get your gist of it and regret positing it (the question) in a post on FR.


111 posted on 12/22/2013 3:05:56 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero

You and I know the correct answer. :)


112 posted on 12/22/2013 3:07:46 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
So man will call him God. Leftists are doing that now with Obama. Should we go ahead and give him that as an official title?

Oh, I have a title for him (Obama) alright but it ain't God.

113 posted on 12/22/2013 3:11:14 PM PST by BipolarBob
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To: BipolarBob

LOL!


114 posted on 12/22/2013 3:17:04 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: DouglasKC

Indubitably One God revealed in Three persons (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit). Doctrine of the Trinity, which took the Church some 300 years to express.


115 posted on 12/22/2013 3:20:05 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr
Indubitably One God revealed in Three persons (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit). Doctrine of the Trinity, which took the Church some 300 years to express.

Bears repeating...

116 posted on 12/22/2013 3:24:52 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: jimmyray; GarySpFc; daniel1212; metmom; CynicalBear; boatbums
And the gullible women worshipped Jesus after his resurrection; reckon why he did not stop them?

Indeed and Jesus did not rebuke the blind man when he worshiped Him:

John 9:

35 Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and when He had found him, He said to him, “Do you believe in the Son of God?”[e] 36 He answered and said, “Who is He, Lord, that I may believe in Him?” 37 And Jesus said to him, “You have both seen Him and it is He who is talking with you.” 38 Then he said, “Lord, I believe!” And he worshiped Him.

117 posted on 12/22/2013 3:30:39 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; GarySpFc
UCG, which denies the Trinity and believes in an “open” Godhead. They believe that Christians join into the “God Family.” They also deny that the Holy Spirit is a person, but claim the Spirit is a “force” which their church has the power to transfer by the laying on of hands.

Is this the "oneness" movement?

118 posted on 12/22/2013 3:32:03 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: redleghunter

“Is this the “oneness” movement?”


I wouldn’t say so exactly, as that would be a form of Modalism. The UCG believes that the Father and the Son are two separate divine entities (not “one” in substance), and deny that the Spirit is a person at all.


119 posted on 12/22/2013 3:35:49 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Cvengr
Indubitably One God revealed in Three persons (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit). Doctrine of the Trinity, which took the Church some 300 years to express.

Yes, but remember the Church was established (in the eyes of the world) on that particular Day of Pentecost. Those gathered were slandered as being drunk early in the morning but I believe the Church did a most excellent job that day of declaring The Glory of The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit -- The Only Wise God.
120 posted on 12/22/2013 3:42:30 PM PST by Resettozero
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