Posted on 12/20/2013 8:46:47 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
Click on the YouTube link below to watch Bill O'Reilly's chat with Laura Ingraham on last night's The O'Reilly Factor (12/19/2013). Bill O'Reilly quotes Luke 6:37, which is displayed on the screen:
"Judge not, and you will not be judged. Condemn not, and you will not be condemned."
Listen to what he has to say. Do you agree with what he has to say about "Judge not lest ye be judged..."?
Now compare what he has to say with what is at Catholic.com and Catholic.org on this subject. Go to those sites and the first thing you see today is a discussion about what Phil Robertson had to say and the issue of homosexuality and right and wrong. They both seem to be in agreeement with the following:
1.) NIV Study Bible, page 1550, Luke 6:37, commentary section:
"Jesus did not relieve His followers of the need for discerning right and wrong (cf. vv. 43-45), but he condemned unjust and hypocritical judging of others."
2.) Holman Concise Bible Commentary, page 453. Luke 6:12-49
"...love recognizes sin in the self before it hastens to deal with sin in others."
3.) Fire Bible: Student Edition, page 1397 [for those in that age group]. Commentary section.
"This is one of the most quoted - but often misunderstood and abused - Bible passages. Ungodly people often cite this principle to justify their sinful behavior and lifestyles. The fact is that God's people must constantly use discernment, make wise judgments and accept or reject certain beliefs and behaviors (See Pr. 3:21; Jn. 7:24).
1.) We have to discern what is right and wrong by the scriptures and take a stand for what is right. 2.) We have to realize that we are sinners (which Phil Robertson did) BEFORE we deal with the sin in others, as Holman shows above, thus showing that sin in others must be dealt with AFTER our own, and 3.) certain behaviors must be called out and rejected.
YouTube
12/19/2013
Bill O’Reilly Offers Suprising Reaction to Phil Robertson Controversy
http://www.youtube.com/watch/?v=DI3B85tJHPA&feature=
And this is all very well and good. But what leftist morons do not understand is that Phild DID NOT JUDGE anyone.
He correctly identified sin - as any Christian can and must do. But he didn’t condemn anyone. The God of Heaven - through His Word does that.
Bloviator did a really poor job tonight ...... I guess he either didn't read the GQ article, or he didn't get this far:
“We never, ever judge someone on who’s going to heaven, hell. That’s the Almighty’s job. We just love ’em, give ’em the good news about Jesus—whether they’re homosexuals, drunks, terrorists. We let God sort ’em out later, you see what I’m saying?”
So much for his "Phil is judging" argument.
I agree. It is very good.
Phil Robertson did not judge anyone, and he did correctly identify sin, which the commentaries back up.
And he didn’t condemn anyone.
Now, what do you think about O’Reilly and his comments?
BOR is a self-aggrandizing horse’s patoot (with apologies to horses everywhere).
Yep. Robertson did not judge anyone. He admitted he was a sinner, discerned what was wrong in himself first, then others second and rebuked it.
This verse is constantly taken out of context.
Contextually, God’s word is clearly talking about self-righteous judgment.
Luke 6:39 - 42 makes that clear.
39 And He spoke a parable to them: “Can the blind lead the blind? Will they not both fall into the ditch?
40 A disciple is not above his teacher, but everyone who is perfectly trained will be like his teacher.
41 And why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but do not perceive the plank in your own eye?
42 Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Brother, let me remove the speck that is in your eye,’ when you yourself do not see the plank that is in your own eye? Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck that is in your brother’s eye.
Christians must judge but not do so hypocritically. Of course the ultimate judgment belongs to God.
What do other people here think about what O’Reilly said?
I’m at work. You-tube blocked. And I certainly don’t watch BOR when I’m able.
“Now, what do you think about O’Reilly and his comments?”
Only thing I know is what I’ve read here on FR about them. And that is the usual: Ted Baxter is clueless.
I have wrestled with the quote, ‘Judge not lest ye be judged’ and I knew it couldn’t possibly mean what I had been told. Thank you very much for its not that I am super critical of others but I could not reconcile it with the actions and words of Christ in other instances.
Thanks again, I knew there was a reason I hung out on FR with people smarter then me.
Merry Christmas!
BOR is a liar. He cannot state his views without lying about what other people have said or done.
Thank you for summing it up nicely.
Are you sure you didn’t watch the video? Yours is a very well informed post for someone who didn’t even take a little peak.
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I saw this last night. He’s making up his own scripture as he’s going along again.
Bill O’Blather…. certainly my choice for commentary on the Bible /s
Ted Baxter is clueless
Like so many others, BOR confuses the sin with the sinner. It’s God’s job to judge the sinner, but it’s our job to judge the sin. Discernment is exactly the right word. Without it we’re not even animals, we’re potted plants. We make judgments by the second based on SOME criterion. And for many, that criterion is the Bible. Is BOR going to tell us that we can’t say or believe that murder (or stealing or lying or even speeding) is wrong and to be avoided? I don’t think so. “Judge not . . .” couldn’t be less appropriate an argument.
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