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Pope Is No Judge of Character
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Posted on 12/17/2013 2:58:40 AM PST by Arthur McGowan

This is worse than all the Pope's maladroit statements in all the interviews put together.

The Pope's most valued adviser on American matters is Cardinal Sean O'Malley, of Ted Kennedy canonization fame.

Now the Pope has pushed aside Cardinal Raymond Burke in favor of the oleaginous Cardinal Donald Wuerl, Archbishop of Washington, a leader among those bishops who refuse to obey Canon 915, despite the fact that disobedience to Canon 915 is ALWAYS a mortal sin.

Proving that this Pope is no judge of character.


TOPICS: Current Events; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: abortion; bishops; pope
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Let’s face it. We have a shallow, grinning, not-very-bright Pope. He doesn’t want “culture-warriors.” It doesn’t fit his happy-clappy, 1970s version of the Church.

It has happened before, just not in our lifetime.

I think the best course of action, mental-health-wise, is to stop expecting anything from him, and do our best to ignore news out of Rome.


21 posted on 12/17/2013 1:59:38 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Campion

I think you’re confusing “infallible” (able to teach without error) with “impeccable” (without sin).


No, although i had not thought of it in that way i was referring to being infallible in the sense of teaching.

Paul had a problem with Peter which you could say he told to the whole world of Christendom,

If Paul was right Peter was not impeccable.

If Paul was wrong Paul was not infallible.

Peter said he was chosen to give the word to the gentiles.

Paul said that he was.

Were both of them infallible?

I believe scripture is inspired by God but what was considered scripture in those days?

I doubt very much if Pauls letters were considered scripture at that time.

And i do believe that any thing any Church teaches that is not backed up in plain words by scripture has a good chance of being wrong.

Also of the many translations how many say exactly the same thing, they can not all be 100 percent infallible.

Infallibility is something i do not believe any one has except for God.


22 posted on 12/17/2013 2:37:10 PM PST by ravenwolf
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Cardinal Burke still has about six jobs in the Vatican.

It’s the elevation of Wuerl, a corrupt liar, that is so troubling. That the Pope can’t see through this Uriah Heep is what is really troubling.


23 posted on 12/17/2013 3:42:06 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Cardinal Burke still has about six jobs in the Vatican.

It’s the elevation of Wuerl, a corrupt liar, that is so troubling. That the Pope can’t see through this Uriah Heep is what is really troubling.


24 posted on 12/17/2013 3:42:06 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: ravenwolf

Real theologians—and Popes—do not rely on translations when doing serious work that involves Scripture. They go to the original Hebrew and Greek.

If you exclude all infallibility on the part of “men,” then you have to deny Jesus’ promise to remain with the Apostles and the Church (by sending the Holy Spirit) to maintain them in the truth.

No one claims that the Church is infallible about anything but the essentials of the Christian Faith. But to exclude ALL infallibility, you have to deny the promises of Jesus.


25 posted on 12/17/2013 3:47:02 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan

Then why does the Vatican II Church allow individual bishops to decide on whether to follow it?


26 posted on 12/17/2013 3:54:09 PM PST by piusv
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To: Arthur McGowan
Translation: The Pope doesn’t want Catholics

What Catholic pope would not want Catholics?

27 posted on 12/17/2013 3:57:02 PM PST by piusv
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To: Arthur McGowan

I don’t buy that he doesn’t see.


28 posted on 12/17/2013 3:58:26 PM PST by piusv
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To: Arthur McGowan

I agree.


29 posted on 12/17/2013 4:01:47 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("They destroyed whole civilizations. Some of them, I am ashamed to say, were Jedi.")
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To: Arthur McGowan

No one claims that the Church is infallible about anything but the essentials of the Christian Faith. But to exclude ALL infallibility, you have to deny the promises of Jesus.


That statement is a little too broad for my mind and i have never been accused of being narrow minded.


30 posted on 12/18/2013 4:41:32 AM PST by ravenwolf
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To: ravenwolf

Well—think about it.

If the Church enjoys NO infallibility, then what was Jesus talking about when he promised that the Church would teach the truth until the end of the world?


31 posted on 12/18/2013 8:32:00 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan

If the Church enjoys NO infallibility, then what was Jesus talking about when he promised that the Church would teach the truth until the end of the world?


I believe the Gospel has been preached to all of the world in spite of all of the fallacy.

I believe Jesus was with the Apostles in spirit until the end of their lives, by their word the new testament was written.

Mathew, Mark, Luke and John are the Gospels, i believe any one who believe we need something else is not really paying much attention to the Gospel.

There have been so much preached and written in order to explain the Gospel that it looks to me that it is only an act of God that we still have the Gospel.


32 posted on 12/18/2013 9:13:44 AM PST by ravenwolf
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