Posted on 12/10/2013 8:16:59 AM PST by GonzoII
If that is the case, I would imagine St. Peter did not encourage people to kiss his feet, but I would guess that it is just as likely (knowing human nature) that he had to actively gently discourage it on a somewhat constant basis.
You're welcome.
That's not fair! You're quoting the Bible! Which do you think they value more, their churchs traditions or the Words of God?
You ignored the context:
“I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make for yourself a graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them or serve them”
But praying to people in Heaven is not the same. What makes catholics think Mary, for example, can hear the millions of prayers that are directed toward her? There's no indication that saints in Heaven are omniscient. Omniscience is only an attribute of God.
Yet it is from the same Evangelicals and Fundamentalists Protestants who make the Bible a subject of WORSHIP.
Amazing how non-Catholics tell Catholics how they must worship. It is the same as the way Leftists try and tell me how to run my life.
I grew up Catholic but am considering the Baptists.
That said, I don’t think it is my business to tell Catholics how to worship. It is between them and God.
One can say politely and with a real difference of religious dogma that kissing the feet of a statue is not true to the precepts of Protestant Christianity which is more bible-centric than the Catholic church is (in my experience) but that “polite telling” is not what I see here.
Just my opinion.
In the coming judgments of the end time, if Romanists desire to incur God's wrath for refusing to repent of their pagan-Christian idolatry -
Rev. 9:20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:
- that's one thing, that's their choice, but to try to make the rest of us FReepers idolators like themselves is quite another!
Obviously she has an account on the divine server! Seriously, any knowledge the saints have of earthly doings, or souls in heaven have of their families on earth, is by the power of God.
“Yet it is from the same Evangelicals and Fundamentalists Protestants who make the Bible a subject of WORSHIP.”
Really? Where’s the nearest protestant shrine to the Bible? What’s a typical protestant prayer to the Bible sound like?
I tend to agree. I also think it’s telling that those who claim to be his successor don’t seem to do anything to discourage such behavior.
“Not if they are Jesuits. A Jesuit alter doesn’t have Jesus or Mary in sight. There is an IHS monogram to remind folks what this is about.”
Sounds like you have not seen many Jesuit altars (please note the correct spelling). See this example: http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/photo/high-altar-in-the-chiesa-del-gesu-high-res-stock-photography/148865324
This teaching has been taught by the Church from the beginning. You deny what you can’t personally understand... so who’s walking by faith?
More like fantasies dreamed up by people.
Peter and Paul taught this? Really? Got a reference for that claim?
You deny what you can’t personally understand... so who’s walking by faith?
No, I deny what does not conform to the spirit of Bible teaching.
Tradition is fine as long as it conforms with Scripture. There cannot be disagreement there. To ascribe omniscience to anyone but God goes against the overwhelming sense of Scripture.
No I don't believe I did. There are several sins listed in that Chapter, I only pointed out one, as did you.
If I am ignoring the context, so are you.
We pray through her and ask for her intercession to Jesus, her Son. It is like asking a friend to pray for you. Except she has a little more “pull” than your friend. Same with the saints. They are close to God, so we talk to them and ask for help. Make sense now?
Yeah cause worshiping a golden calf is the same as looking at a statue of Jesus while praying to Jesus.
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