Morality and economics, Pope Francis, and Rush Limbaugh

Renew America ^ | November 30, 2013 | Matt C. Abbott

[Revolting cat!]

The Pope (why one, all of them!) could learn a great deal from the Great Wise Men of the American radio, the Catholic gurus like Savage (not his real name!) or Levin (his real name?) Is Woo Woo Ginsburg still around?

[aMorePerfectUnion]

“Rush appears to have mixed up unbridled consumerism and unchecked manipulation of goods and services with Adam Smith free markets.”

Please, you are just reading the main stream media’s liberal spin on what Rush said. Plus it was a very bad translation of Rush’s words. /s

[fatima]

People talk about the lamestream media but when it comes to my Pope the so called elite who get paid just read the headlines and comment which makes them asses with a lot of money.We don't get paid for what we post.:)I don't know what the hell the Pope said but I do know that he goes out at night to help the homeless and feed the hungry in Rome.He is now sending the Swiss guard out to help also.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

“Rush and Sarah should mind their own business when it comes to our Pope.”

Really?? It seems that the Pope puts out his ideas into the marketplace of ideas and should expect a discussion of those ideas.

[fatima]

Yea if they read them.Both admitted they didn’t.

[JSteff]

I too am Catholic and a strong defender here on FR of Catholicism. Also, please show me where I posted Sarah Palin's name in my comments.. I will wait and look again when you cut an past that section of my comments...... okay, I though not.

The comments the pope made were not at all supportive of the Catholic and conservative way of life and mind set. Pope John destroyed communism and CCCO because he supported the conservative mindset. This popes comments were closer to the CCCP or even occupy wall street type of thinking and it was not a place he should have gone.

Conservatism is what keeps us free and safe. The soviets were totally against any sort of free will and self improvement as is the current admin in the USA. I will admit that I only heard part of the Rush show (I was workoing) and did not realize he said that much, but he still was right. It is not the popes place to tell me or anyone that we should act more like the socialists. The pope should be giving people encouragement to work out of the station they are at and get ahead.

That is a long disproved ideological way of thinking and every dictator who has tried it has failed. The single largest reason for famine throughout history has been dictatorships and socialism. Our system is the only one that has worked and has feed more people than all the socialists and dictators ever did.

Capitalism is the only way to go... the rest have been failures and those who experimented in other directions have killed people. Now are your saying we should blindly agree with any pope and whatever he says?

[Greetings_Puny_Humans]

This article is pure spin! The Pope was quite clear when he was condemning “trickle down economics” and “unfettered markets” and condemning those who do not want to provide the necessary “regulations” and political interventions.

The Catholics are fighting us out over the definition of “is,” and they’re even slicker than Slick Willy on it.

The words of Francis, without the spin, stand on their own quite well.

[JSteff]

Lehman Bros, Enrons, the Bernie Madoffs, and currency manipulators like Soros that impoverished the middle class in many Third Word Asian nations like Thailand a

Thanks but no thanks,I care nothing for the occupy wall street mindset you seem to espouse now. My ideals are more along the lines of censervatism than you seem to have with the occupy thinking but enjoy that for now if it makes you happy...

But one question, while on FR do you find the anti-unionism is a little much for you to take cause there are other threads on the web more in agreement with all that...

Say hi to your union steward and to rich trumpka if you get a chance.

[JSteff]

You think the article was about Rush’s comments alone? Have you been paying attention the last few days?

For the last three days or so I have not paid that much attention to things. So what did it miss that seems to have changed the tone of FR?

[JSteff]

That really was a long rant, but I know I agree more with Rush than the socialism way of thinking. But thanks for posting it.

[vladimir998]

“So what did it miss that seems to have changed the tone of FR?”

I don’t think it “missed” this but the pure vitriol and ignorance that has sprung up on FR over the pope’s document has been stunning. Most of the people spreading that vitriol and ignorance have not even read a portion of the document let alone the whole thing.

[Nifster]

of course you don’t

[JSteff]

Sarah and Rush made money? How do you know? Does MSNBC update you about these things on a regular basis?

Oh, and thanks for the correction on the spelling (capitalization) of Pope. You are right. And to think I did best in religion at St. Theresa's than any other class.

10th and up it was public schools that must have caught up and corrupted me.

[fatima]

OMG are you my husband.He never makes sense.

[Nifster]

your command of logic and context within what you wrote and how I responded says you do not follow your own train of thought

[fatima]

A non-Catholic knows a capital P for the Pope.You wanna fight and call me MSNBC.Pretty Low.Sarah and Rush make money every time they open their mouths on the air and they make lots of money.Not to research what you are talking about wastes everyone’s time.Sarah retracted and so did Rush and both admitted just reading headlines.Hell I want that job.

[fatima]

You might be right.

[Salvation]

Defining evil? Very simple.

EVIL
The privation of a good that should be present. It is the lack of a good that essentially belongs to a nature; the absence of a good that is natural and due to a being. Evil is therefore the absence of what ought to be there.
All items in this dictionary are from Fr. John Hardon’s Modern Catholic Dictionary, © Eternal Life. Used with permission.

[Yardstick]

So the pope said “consumerism”, not “capitalism”?

If so, that changes things.