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Again HUGE news: Pope Francis explicitly endorses Benedict XVI’s “hermeneutic of continuity”
WDTPRS ^ | 11/23/2013 | Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

Posted on 11/23/2013 11:39:06 AM PST by markomalley

You will want to read this carefully and put it in your “IMPORTANT” file.

This is, again, HUGE news.

The 450th anniversary of the closing of the Council of Trent is coming up on 4 December.  We like to celebrate these great milestones in salvation history.  So, there are great doings in Trent, in the northern area of Italy which is part of the (also) German-speaking Tirol.  As is customary, Pope Francis will send a Cardinal as his personal representative.  Who better than His Eminence Walter Card. Brandmüller?

When the Pope sends a Cardinal off on one of these missions, he sends him a formal letter, charging him with his task and indicating something of his own hopes for the occasion.  The anniversary of the closing of the Council of Trent is no exception.

In his letter to Card. Brandmüller, Pope Francis explicitly cites Pope Benedict XVI pontificate-defining address in 2005 to the Roman Curia in which he spoke about the “hermeneutic of discontinuity and rupture” (e.g., the Karl Rahner crowd and their descendants, still active today) and the “hermeneutic of reform”, or “hermeneutic of continuity”.

In this explicit reference Francis is aligning himself with Benedict and that key moment and concept underlying Benedict’s pontificate.

This comes in the wake of Francis writing to Archbishop Marchetto (refresh your memory HERE), a critic of one of the powerhouses of the ”hermeneutic of discontinuity and rupture”, the so-called “Bologna School” of interpretation of the Council.  Francis surely broke a lot of liberal hearts when he referred to Marchetto (who in this matter is completely aligned with Benedict) as one of the best interpreters of the Council that he knows.

The letter of Francis to Card. Brandmüller is available in the Latin original in the Bollettino.  Here is my rapid translation of the first part of the letter, which is the important part.  I scaled down some of the flowery stuff. The second part is the usual boilerplate and of less interest.

To our Venerable Brother
Walter Cardinal (of the Holy Roman Church) Brandmüller
Deacon of St. Julian of the Flemish

Since the 450th anniversary of the day on which the Council of Trent drew to its favorable end, it is fitting that the Church recall with readier and more attentive eagerness the most rich doctrine which came out of that Council held in the Tyrol. It is certainly not without good reason that the Church has for a long time given such great care to that Council’s decrees and canons which are to be recalled and heeded, seeing that, since extremely grave matters and questions sprang up in that period, the Council Fathers employed all their diligence so that the Catholic faith should come into clearer view and be better understood. Without a doubt as the Holy Spirit inspired and prompted them, it was the Fathers’ greatest concern not only that the sacred deposit of Christian doctrine be defended, but also that mankind be more brightly illuminated, in order that the saving work of the Lord could be diffused throughout the entire globe and the Gospel be spread through the whole world.

Harking closely to the same Spirit, Holy Church in this age renews and meditates on the most abundant doctrine of the Council of Trent. In fact, the “hermeneutic of renewal” [interpretatio renovationis] which Our Predecessor Benedict XVI explained in 2005 before the Roman Curia, refers in no way less to the Council of Trent than to the Vatican Council. To be sure, this mode of interpretation places under a brighter light a beautiful characteristic of the Church which is taught by the Lord Himself: “She is a ‘subject’ which increases in time and develops, yet always remaining the same, the one subject of the journeying People of God” (Address of His Holiness Benedict XVI to the Roman Curia offering them his Christmas greetings – 22 December 2005).

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This is a significant letter.

First, it affirms that we can indeed, and rightly, Read Francis Through Benedict.

Second, it affirms that Francis is, and rightly, reading Francis Through Benedict.

Third, it strikes me that Pope Francis is making some course corrections.  He may have perceived that some in “the world” (e.g., liberals, the MSM) are not reading him accurately.  His experience with the “interview” by Scalfari ought to have made that evident.  In addition to liberal misperceptions and distorted interpretations, he has also been misjudged by many on the more conservative side of the spectrum.

As I have said all along, Pope Francis – like every Pope – has to learn how to be Pope.  He had less of an advantage coming to the See of Peter because he had not been in or around the Roman Curia.  But he is adjusting, learning, transforming.  Francis, as you can see everyday, is not static in his job.  He isn’t simply on cruise control.

Continue to pay close attention to Pope Francis, not just in sound-bites, but in the larger arcs of his talks and speeches and written documents.

This is not a bone thrown to conservatives.  This is the real deal.  This is Francis.


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1 posted on 11/23/2013 11:39:06 AM PST by markomalley
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To: markomalley

**As I have said all along, Pope Francis – like every Pope – has to learn how to be Pope. He had less of an advantage coming to the See of Peter because he had not been in or around the Roman Curia. But he is adjusting, learning, transforming. Francis, as you can see everyday, is not static in his job. He isn’t simply on cruise control.

Continue to pay close attention to Pope Francis, not just in sound-bites, but in the larger arcs of his talks and speeches and written documents.

This is not a bone thrown to conservatives. This is the real deal. This is Francis.**

I think Fr. Z nails it here.


2 posted on 11/23/2013 11:41:53 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

The trouble with catholics is that they have to make up a vocabulary that is so contorted that an average person can not understand them. I will stick with the charismatics as their speaking in tongs is soothing next to the put on super intellect put out by the catholics.


3 posted on 11/23/2013 11:48:21 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: mountainlion

so what vocabulary is made up here?


4 posted on 11/23/2013 11:51:04 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: mountainlion

tongues


5 posted on 11/23/2013 11:57:55 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (What we said when we said what we said was. Period. End of story.)
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To: markomalley; Tax-chick; GregB; Berlin_Freeper; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; ...

Ping!


6 posted on 11/23/2013 11:59:51 AM PST by NYer ("The wise man is the one who can save his soul. - St. Nimatullah Al-Hardini)
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To: markomalley

What I find interesting is the fact that the Jesuit’s main role in their beginning was to put the rules of the Council of Trent into action. Now we have a Pope who will be finishing the details.


7 posted on 11/23/2013 12:14:48 PM PST by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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To: markomalley

The Modernists and Leftists are always hoping for an Episcopalian Pope. They are necessarily always disappointed.God is not a Modernist.


8 posted on 11/23/2013 12:25:40 PM PST by ThanhPhero (Khách sang La Vang hanh huong tham vieng Maria)
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To: Salvation

so what vocabulary is made up here?

“hermeneutic of continuity”, What is that supposed to mean?

I am not uneducated but if Catholics want to bring people into their church they need to use common language so the people know what they are talking about.


9 posted on 11/23/2013 12:33:01 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

tongues

Sell check is such a help.

Thanks


10 posted on 11/23/2013 12:34:17 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: mountainlion

Spell


11 posted on 11/23/2013 12:40:40 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (What we said when we said what we said was. Period. End of story.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Spell

I think I am distracted a bit. Which is more important spelling or typing? May they are equal.


12 posted on 11/23/2013 12:44:11 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: markomalley

After getting burnt by a journalist and a politician, HH seems intent on letting his intentions be known.


13 posted on 11/23/2013 12:47:50 PM PST by pbear8 (the Lord is my light and my salvation)
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To: mountainlion

I think we all know what continuity means, yes? If so, we can get the point.


14 posted on 11/23/2013 12:50:37 PM PST by EnquiringMind
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To: mountainlion
It seems, most important is using...
common language so the people know what they are talking about.

15 posted on 11/23/2013 12:52:27 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (What we said when we said what we said was. Period. End of story.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

George Washington went to a Dutch church and set listening 5 hours to the Pastor in Dutch, which he did not understand. A lot of talk is Greek to me.


16 posted on 11/23/2013 12:59:02 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: mountainlion

Did George Washington make a complaint about it?


17 posted on 11/23/2013 1:01:23 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (What we said when we said what we said was. Period. End of story.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

George Washington did not complain as he held going to church in high regard. He was already knowledgeable of God. I expect that he knew many languages and had a much deeper understand than generations now. I guess I expect much form a church especially now. I guess this forum is really not for evangelism nor an elementary education.


18 posted on 11/23/2013 1:10:44 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: mountainlion

Well, good grief, they don’t talk about the hermeneutic of continuity during mass or anything.


19 posted on 11/23/2013 1:17:43 PM PST by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: mountainlion

“charismatics as their speaking in tongs”

Strange. I thought they spoke in spatula.

“The trouble with catholics is that they have to make up a vocabulary that is so contorted that an average person can not understand them.”

The average UNEDUCATED person, maybe. Those who are educated have less difficulty understanding the vocabulary used by particular defined groups. Having said that, what group has an easily understood vocabulary - easily understood by the “average person” anyway? Jews? Nope. Evangelicals? Not really? Are you a post, mid-, or pre-, millenialist, for instance? Are you a Preterist? Get the point?


20 posted on 11/23/2013 1:21:16 PM PST by vladimir998
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