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Two Utah Boy Scout leaders are facing significant backlash after posting a video online of the men tipping over a nearly 200-million-year-old rock formation in Goblin Valley State Park. Glenn Taylor and David Hall, from Highland, Utah, have now been removed from the Boy Scouts of America. An investigation is underway to determine whether the men will face felony charges.

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...leadership of the Utah National Parks Council, the Boy Scouts’ local chapter, consulted with leadership of the chartering organization for the men’s unit — The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints — including ward and stake leaders, according to council spokesperson John Gailey.

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The incident received renewed attention after it was discovered that Taylor recently filed a lawsuit against Alan MacDonald and his daughter Cassie, a BYU student, for a car accident almost four years ago. Cassie MacDonald, a junior studying broadcast journalism, was 16 years old and driving in American Fork when she looked down for a second. As she looked back up she noticed cars stopped in front of her...she hit three cars. The incident seemed minor, no ambulances were called and no injuries reported until Taylor filled his lawsuit in Provo 4th District Court Sept. 3. Cassie MacDonald found out later that the man suing her for “serious, permanent and debilitating injuries” was the man pushing over the rock in the Goblin Valley video. “I was a little bit surprised,” she said. “That was a two-ton rock that he basically came up to and pushed right off its base. He really put his back into it, and that took some serious muscle...from the looks of it, it doesn’t look like he is seriously disabled.”...

So this guy's a Mormon church Boy Scout leader. Pushes over a two-ton ancient rock formation. Glories about it online.

Gets removed from the Boy Scouts group. Faces potential criminal felony charges, etc.

And, showing no probs being able to push over such a hefty rock, has a case pending in Provo court against a BYU student for supposedly causing him: “serious, permanent and debilitating injuries”???

1 posted on 11/07/2013 4:33:58 AM PST by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

All three may be closet male homosexual pedophiles as they certainly are not true to the Boy Scout way of life and should never be in charge of young boys as “Leaders”.


2 posted on 11/07/2013 4:44:22 AM PST by AKinAK (Keep your powder dry pilgrim.)
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Yep, you summed it up pretty good there. Goes to show what a sue-happy society we are these days.

My son is a boyscout and when I told him about this he said it goes against everything they are taught, especially the “leave no trace” part of camping...they are to do no damage nor leave anything behind to show that they were even there. I’m glad the “leaders” were relieved of duty and pray the scouts get someone to lead them properly.


3 posted on 11/07/2013 4:49:24 AM PST by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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When I was in Scouts, the rule was, “Take only pictures, leave only footprints.” Times change I suppose.


4 posted on 11/07/2013 5:08:20 AM PST by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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No matter what you say, Mormans make great neighbors. (Unless they start tipping your house!)


6 posted on 11/07/2013 5:45:21 AM PST by Gamecock (Many Atheists take the stand: "There is no God AND I hate Him.")
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People do stupid things. Back in 1971, I was in Carlsbad Caverns when the woman behind me noticed a small formation. She said to her partner, “It looks so fragile!” She then reached over and grabbed it and tried to see if it was. It wasn’t and no damage was done.

I thought ..”IDIOT!”

The scout leader, in Utah, should have warned others to stay away from the formation and notified a ranger immediately, but stupid is as stupid does, especially when you video your stupidity and post it on line.


8 posted on 11/07/2013 6:00:01 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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You’ll have to help me understand why this is posted in the religion forum.

What role does MormonISM play in this story?

Idiots and cheats come in all varieties.


9 posted on 11/07/2013 6:55:28 AM PST by dmz
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“We’ve had hundreds of death threats,” Hall said...

No...

Wait!!

That was over the 'morally straight' clause.

10 posted on 11/07/2013 7:20:06 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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Making death threats against these bozo’s is stupid.

What they did was incredibly stupid and violated every tennant of scouting as well.. you just have to wonder about these adults.

We all are flawed creatures, but what would possess a group of grown men to act like teenage boys? Particularly a group of men who are part of an organization dedicated to guiding boys away from such stupid behavior.


30 posted on 11/07/2013 12:19:39 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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Got News Wire

Utah Scout leaders face backlash after incident in Goblin Valley State Park (Updated)


Two Utah Boy Scout leaders are facing significant backlash after posting a video online of the men tipping over a nearly 200-million-year-old rock formation in Goblin Valley State Park. Glenn Taylor and David Hall, from Highland, Utah, have now been removed from the Boy Scouts of America. An investigation is underway to determine whether the men will face felony charges. SNIP ...leadership of the Utah National Parks Council, the Boy Scouts’ local chapter, consulted with leadership of the chartering organization for the men’s unit — The Church of Jesus Christ...

Published By: Free Republic - Today


55 posted on 11/07/2013 2:49:12 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: All
Here was the ex-Mormon forum convo on this matter a few weeks ago:

How much you wanna bet these Boy Scouts Masters are LDS?

58 posted on 11/07/2013 2:54:15 PM PST by Colofornian
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O that cunning plan of the evil one! O the vainness, and the frailties, and the foolishness of men! When they are learned they think they are wise, and they hearken not unto the counsel of God, for they set it aside, supposing they know of themselves, wherefore, their wisdom is foolishness and it profiteth them not. And they shall perish.
—Book of Mormon 2 Nephi 9:28

... men preach and set themselves up for a light unto the world, that they may get gain and praise of the world; but they seek not the welfare of Zion.
Book of Mormon 2 Nephi 26:29

The Church is like a great caravan—organized, prepared, following an appointed course, with its captains of tens and captains of hundreds all in place.
What does it matter if a few barking dogs snap at the heels of the weary travelers? Or that predators claim those few who fall by the way? The caravan moves on.

Is there a ravine to cross, a miry mud hole to pull through, a steep grade to climb? So be it. The oxen are strong and the teamsters wise. The caravan moves on.
Are there storms that rage along the way, floods that wash away the bridges, deserts to cross, and rivers to ford? Such is life in this fallen sphere. The caravan moves on.
Ahead is the celestial city, the eternal Zion of our God, where all who maintain their position in the caravan shall find food and drink and rest. Thank God that the caravan moves on!
—Bruce R. McConkie Modern day Apostle of the Lord Jesus Christ

No unhallowed hand can stop the work from progressing; persecutions may rage, mobs may combine, armies may assemble, calumny may defame, but the truth of God will go forth boldly, nobly, and independent, till it has penetrated every continent, visited every clime, swept every country, and sounded in every ear, till the purposes of God shall be accomplished, and the Great Jehovah shall say the work is done. —Joseph Smith—History of the Church, 4:540.

The Articles of Faith of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints

1. We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.

2. We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam’s transgression.

3. We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.

4. We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.

5. We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.

6. We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.

7. We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.

8. We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.

9. We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.

10. We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.

11. We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.

12. We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.

13. We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul-We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.


59 posted on 11/07/2013 3:06:56 PM PST by Dr. Zzyzx
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