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The "Apocrypha": Why It's Part of the Bible
Biblical Evidence for Catholicism ^ | Friday, November 10, 2006 | Dave Armstrong

Posted on 10/28/2013 12:50:17 PM PDT by GonzoII

(Bible verses: RSV)

The Old Testament in Catholic Bibles contains seven more books than are found in Protestant Bibles (46 and 39, respectively). Protestants call these seven books the Apocrypha and Catholics know them as the deuterocanonical books. These seven books are: Tobit, Judith, 1 and 2 Maccabees, Wisdom of Solomon, Ecclesiasticus (or, Sirach), and Baruch. Also, Catholic Bibles contain an additional six chapters (107 verses) in the book of Esther and another three in the book of Daniel (174 verses). These books and chapters were found in Bible manuscripts in Greek only, and were not part of the Hebrew Canon of the Old Testament, as determined by the Jews.

All of these were dogmatically acknowledged as Scripture at the Council of Trent in 1548 (which means that Catholics were henceforth not allowed to question their canonicity), although the tradition of their inclusion was ancient. At the same time, the Council rejected 1 and 2 Esdras and the Prayer of Manasses as part of Sacred Scripture (these are often included in collections of the "Apocrypha" as a separate unit).

The Catholic perspective on this issue is widely misunderstood. Protestants accuse Catholics of "adding" books to the Bible, while Catholics retort that Protestants have "booted out" part of Scripture. Catholics are able to offer very solid and reasonable arguments in defense of the scriptural status of the deuterocanonical books. These can be summarized as follows:

1) They were included in the Septuagint (the Greek translation of the Old Testament from the third century B.C.), which was the "Bible" of the Apostles. They usually quoted the Old Testament scriptures (in the text of the New Testament) from the Septuagint.

2) Almost all of the Church Fathers regarded the Septuagint as the standard form of the Old Testament. The deuterocanonical books were in no way differentiated from the other books in the Septuagint, and were generally regarded as canonical. St. Augustine thought the Septuagint was apostolically-sanctioned and inspired, and this was the consensus in the early Church.

3) Many Church Fathers (such as St. Irenaeus, St. Cyprian, Tertullian) cite these books as Scripture without distinction. Others, mostly from the east (for example, St. Athanasius, St. Cyril of Jerusalem, St. Gregory Nazianzus) recognized some distinction but nevertheless still customarily cited the deuterocanonical books as Scripture. St. Jerome, who translated the Hebrew Bible into Latin (the Vulgate, early fifth century), was an exception to the rule (the Church has never held that individual Fathers are infallible).

4) The Church Councils at Hippo (393) and Carthage (397, 419), influenced heavily by St. Augustine, listed the deuterocanonical books as Scripture, which was simply an endorsement of what had become the general consensus of the Church in the west and most of the east. Thus, the Council of Trent merely reiterated in stronger terms what had already been decided eleven and a half centuries earlier, and which had never been seriously challenged until the onset of Protestantism.

5) Since these Councils also finalized the 66 canonical books which all Christians accept, it is quite arbitrary for Protestants to selectively delete seven books from this authoritative Canon. This is all the more curious when the complicated, controversial history of the New Testament Canon is understood.

6) Pope Innocent I concurred with and sanctioned the canonical ruling of the above Councils (Letter to Exsuperius, Bishop of Toulouse) in 405.

7) The earliest Greek manuscripts of the Old Testament, such as Codex Sinaiticus (fourth century), and Codex Alexandrinus (c.450) include all of the deuterocanonical books mixed in with the others and not separated.

8) The practice of collecting these books into a separate unit dates back no further than 1520 (in other words, it was a novel innovation of Protestantism). This is admitted by, for example, the Protestant New English Bible (Oxford University Press, 1976), in its "Introduction to the Apocrypha," (p.iii).

9) Protestantism, following Martin Luther, removed the deuterocanonical books from their Bibles due to their clear teaching of doctrines which had been recently repudiated by Protestants, such as prayers for the dead (Tobit 12:12, 2 Maccabees 12:39-45 ff.; cf. 1 Corinthians 15:29), intercession of dead saints (2 Maccabees 15:14; cf. Revelation 6:9-10), and intermediary intercession of angels (Tobit 12:12,15; cf. Revelation 5:8, 8:3-4). We know this from plain statements of Luther and other Reformers.

10) Luther was not content even to let the matter rest there, and proceeded to cast doubt on many other books of the Bible which are accepted as canonical by all Protestants. He considered Job and Jonah mere fables, and Ecclesiastes incoherent and incomplete. He wished that Esther (along with 2 Maccabees) "did not exist," and wanted to "toss it into the Elbe" river.

[Later clarifying note, added on 9-13-07: the red words I no longer agree with, as stated, based on subsequent in-depth research that I have undertaken since 1994, when this was written (perhaps it was written as early as 1991). Like any careful, conscientious researcher, I sometimes (gladly) modify -- even sometimes reverse -- earlier understandings with further study. For my current opinions on Luther and the canon, see:

Luther's Outrageous Assertions About Certain Biblical Books

Did Martin Luther Deny the Canonicity of Esther? ]


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The New Testament fared scarcely better under Luther's gaze. He rejected from the New Testament Canon ("chief books") Hebrews, James ("epistle of straw"), Jude and Revelation, and placed them at the end of his translation, as a New Testament "Apocrypha." He regarded them as non-apostolic. Of the book of Revelation he said, "Christ is not taught or known in it." These opinions are found in Luther's Prefaces to biblical books, in his German translation of 1522.

[Later clarifying note, added on 9-13-07: Luther softened or rejected these more radical opinions in later, revised prefaces, some 20 years later, so that I would write this portion of my first book differently today, in light of my research done since 1994]
12) Although the New Testament does not quote any of these books directly, it does closely reflect the thought of the deuterocanonical books in many passages. For example, Revelation 1:4 and 8:3-4 appear to make reference to Tobit 12:15:St. Paul, in 1 Corinthians 15:29, seems to have 2 Maccabees 12:44 in mind. This saying of Paul is one of the most difficult in the New Testament for Protestants to interpret, given their theology:

This passage of St. Paul shows that it was the custom of the early Church to watch, pray and fast for the souls of the deceased. In Scripture, to be baptized is often a metaphor for affliction or (in the Catholic understanding) penance (for example, Matthew 3:11, Mark 10:38-39, Luke 3:16, 12:50). Since those in heaven have no need of prayer, and those in hell can't benefit from it, these practices, sanctioned by St. Paul, must be directed towards those in purgatory. Otherwise, prayers and penances for the dead make no sense, and this seems to be largely what Paul is trying to bring out. The "penance interpretation" is contextually supported by the next three verses, where St. Paul speaks of "Why am I in peril every hour? . . . I die every day," and so forth.

As a third example, Hebrews 11:35 mirrors the thought of 2 Maccabees 7:29:

13) Ironically, in some of the same verses where the New Testament is virtually quoting the "Apocrypha," doctrines are taught which are rejected by Protestantism, and which were a major reason why the deuterocanonical books were "demoted" by them. Therefore, it was not as easy to eliminate these disputed doctrines from the Bible as it was (and is) supposed, and Protestants still must grapple with much New Testament data which does not comport with their beliefs.

14) Despite this lowering of the status of the deuterocanonical books by Protestantism, they were still widely retained separately in Protestant Bibles for a long period of time (unlike the prevailing practice today). John Wycliffe, considered a forerunner of Protestantism, included them in his English translation. Luther himself kept them separately in his Bible, describing them generally as (although sub-scriptural) "useful and good to read." Zwingli and the Swiss Protestants, and the Anglicans maintained them in this secondary sense also. The English Geneva Bible (1560) and Bishop's Bible (1568) both included them as a unit. Even the Authorized, or King James Version of 1611 contained the "Apocrypha" as a matter of course. And up to the present time many Protestant Bibles continue this practice. The revision of the King James Bible (completed in 1895) included these books, as did the Revised Standard Version (1957), the New English Bible (1970), and the Goodspeed Bible (1939), among others.

15) The deuterocanonical books are read regularly in public worship in Anglicanism, and also among the Eastern Orthodox, and most Protestants and Jews fully accept their value as historical and religious documents, useful for teaching, even though they deny them full canonical status.

It is apparent, then, that the Catholic "case" for these scriptural books carries a great deal of weight, certainly at the very least equal to the Protestant view.

Written in 1996 by Dave Armstrong. Included in A Biblical Defense of Catholicism: pp. 259-264.



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; History
KEYWORDS: apocrypha; bible; deuterocanonicals; scripture
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To: roamer_1

“Funny how the liberals and the Roman church have to hide behind that ‘hate’ label.”

The only thing I can think of is that the Jesuits sent the order of Albino Assassin Monks around and ‘persuaded’ the owners of FR that such truthful and absolutely non-embarrassing tracts must be banned from the Religion forum. Obviously the Vatican couldn’t have the existence of the supercomputer underneath the Vatican with all the Protestant names and locations to be more widely disseminated than it already has become.

It’s the only thing that makes sense.

Freegards


121 posted on 10/29/2013 6:16:35 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: dangus

“Athanasius doesn’t say “for edification.” That could ambiguously be interpreted as strengthening one’s faith, inspiring courage, whatever. Athanasius says it’s purpose is to instruct Christians in the ways of Godliness. In other words, moral doctrine. He certainly does not say that hey are “not to be used for doctrine.” And he most certainly doesn’t call them fiction.

He merely admits that they aren’t “canon.” Whose canon? Athanasius’ own incorrect enumeration of the New Testament makes plain that there is no settled Christian canon. He is referring to the Jews.

Sorry, you can’t have it both ways: Athanasius is either contradicting Sola Scriptura, by looking to something outside scripture for moral doctrine, and/or by “canon” he doesn’t mean the Christian canon.


I think you are overestimating your ability to muddle things up here. You’re also basically revealing that you don’t even know what the reformed view of Sola Scriptura even means. When Athanasius says that these books are “merely to be read,” and is for instruction in “Godliness,” that is not anything different from what I’ve already said before, and of which every Christian I cited agrees with, even your Papist Cardinal Catejan. The distinction is that these books, though having value as religious works by Christians for the edification of morals, cannot be used for the creation of doctrine. That is it. There’s nothing more to it than that. Furthermore, Sola Scriptura says nothing about us not using anything we want to instruct us in Godliness, or as aids for understanding the scripture (commentaries), or anything else we would like to use. It just means that we can only turn to the holy scripture for Christian doctrine, and nowhere else.

I think you and Vladimir, on some level, know you’re fighting a losing battle, and so you’re grasping at anything, even though there isn’t anything left to grasp anymore.


122 posted on 10/29/2013 6:18:05 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Jim Robinson

“FR is run by a non-denominational Christian. I’m a believer but don’t belong to any organized religion.”

Well, you thought you were a “non-denominational Christian” but apparently to someone in this thread you must be a liberal or Catholic. Welcome aboard, Jim! We’re so glad to have you! :)

I’m just saying... (sarc off)


126 posted on 10/29/2013 7:41:14 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: redleghunter

Yes, I brought him up because that’s what happened. And? If the post gets deleted, that’s okay. The story is still true no matter what happens to the post.


127 posted on 10/29/2013 7:43:14 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

“No, I doubt he does. And you shouldn’t talk about your daughter’s latest boyfriend that way.”


I don’t have any kids! Think up insults that actually apply!


128 posted on 10/29/2013 7:53:01 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

“I don’t have any kids! Think up insults that actually apply!”

You’re doing that to yourself well enough on your own.


129 posted on 10/29/2013 7:54:48 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: dangus

I spent three posts showing your claim is incorrect. If you want to cling to the Apocryphal books as ‘gospel’ you have your 1st Amendment right to do so.

Nice bait and switch on the total depravity. LOL how predictable. If you want to start a thread on Enoch and works based salvation please do so. You hinted in three straight posts you wanted to discuss Enoch in detail.


130 posted on 10/29/2013 7:57:43 PM PDT by redleghunter
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To: MarkBsnr

Sir did you go to Catholic HS? I did. I don’t remember any of the fellas running to the principals office. LOL.


131 posted on 10/29/2013 8:00:59 PM PDT by redleghunter
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To: Ransomed

LOL. Good one.


132 posted on 10/29/2013 8:03:21 PM PDT by redleghunter
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To: vladimir998

At the very least it is poor debating skills to bring up a source, take it to the woodshed knowing the rules prevent rebuttals. If you want to be fair I am sure you can post at “he who shall not be named” site. Let me know if you do.


133 posted on 10/29/2013 8:11:24 PM PDT by redleghunter
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

I would not call Vlad’s comments as mind reading but for the first time on a forum I have witnessed mental procreation:)


134 posted on 10/29/2013 8:13:52 PM PDT by redleghunter
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To: redleghunter

“At the very least it is poor debating skills to bring up a source, take it to the woodshed knowing the rules prevent rebuttals.”

No. That would not be poor in skill - perhaps etiquette - but not skill. Denying someone the chance of rebuttal would show great skill not poor skill. And I wasn’t denying you a rebuttal in any case. I quite frankly don’t care if you post about him or not.

“If you want to be fair I am sure you can post at “he who shall not be named” site. Let me know if you do.”

No. I have no interest in posting there. And if I did I would feel no need to make any special effort to tell you or anyone else about it. What would be the point in any case?


135 posted on 10/29/2013 8:25:50 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

Thanks. I might have a look at that. What are the two passages you are referring to?


138 posted on 10/30/2013 1:50:11 AM PDT by OldNewYork (Biden '13. Impeach now.)
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To: OldNewYork

There are a couple of comments which strongly disagree with Catholic teaching (specifically the papacy if I recall correctly; and are not really fairly written) but the bible is worthwhile.


139 posted on 10/30/2013 4:43:05 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: redleghunter

I missed this.

Are you seriously suggesting that any of the people you cite rejected release from torture, imprisonment and death because they knew they would be resurrected?

Sorry, but none elucidate the resurrection. They may, like David, has some spiritual, prophetic hope beyond hope that they will be returned to life if they do perish. But none confidently predict their own resurrection, much less reject release for it.

So once again, you’re stretching the Protestant canon to find something vaguely referential, whereas the Catholic/Greek/Apostolic records precisely what the New Testament refers to.


140 posted on 10/30/2013 12:18:11 PM PDT by dangus
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