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Why Don’t You honor Mary?
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | October 14, 2013 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 10/15/2013 3:21:28 PM PDT by NYer

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To: BipolarBob
BipolarBob said: "Mary was a product of a regular conception as the regular blessed person she was. "

Do you think the poster I was responding to was referring to the conception which resulted in the birth of Mary or the birth of Christ?

41 posted on 10/15/2013 4:21:26 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: NYer

Amen!


42 posted on 10/15/2013 4:21:59 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (Praise to the Lord the Almighty the King of Creation)
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To: Alberta's Child
The audacity of this statement is astonishing. You have no idea what someone can or cannot hear once she has passed from this world into the next.

We remain human after passing from this earth. It is not audacious to say that we do not become Deity. Omniscience is an attribute of God, not humans.

43 posted on 10/15/2013 4:27:22 PM PDT by what's up
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To: William Tell

I’m not sure what you were referring to. I made my statement clear and concise. You do know there is a group of Catholics which believe Mary was born of a virgin, do you not?


44 posted on 10/15/2013 4:32:57 PM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: Redleg Duke

Most Protestants do NOT honor Mary, which is the point. Why are you in the minority?


45 posted on 10/15/2013 4:38:01 PM PDT by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: hosepipe

The Orthodox also revere Mary, and they have been separated from Rome for a thousand years. Ever think they might not have something to say about the matter?


46 posted on 10/15/2013 4:40:23 PM PDT by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: NYer
Mary was chosen by God for her faith and devotion to God, and also she was most undoubtedly a good mother. She was not sinless nor was she a deity of any kind. She was blessed.

And Mary said:

“My soul magnifies the Lord,

And my spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior.

For He has regarded the lowly state of His maidservant"

For behold, henceforth all generations will call me blessed."

Mary had other children afterwards.

Praying to Mary does nothing. She is NOT the Mother of God and nowhere in the bible does it state she was resurrected.Although Mary should not be worshiped, it is right and proper to acknowledge her example of humility and obedience as the caring mother of Jesus, the Son of God. As her relative Elizabeth said, she was “blessed among women”

Mary was greatly blessed by being chosen to give birth to Jesus.
Mary didn’t remain a perpetual virgin. Jesus had four brothers and at least two sisters.
Mary did not ascend into heaven.
Mary is not called “the Queen of Heaven” or “the Mother of God” in the Bible.
Praying to Mary for intercession is not biblical and has no value.
Mary was blessed, but so are all those who obey God’s Word.
47 posted on 10/15/2013 4:41:29 PM PDT by Dallas59 (Obama: The first "White Black" President.)
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To: what's up

If we remain human, then we do not cease to be part of mankind. A mother does not cease to be a mother by dying.


48 posted on 10/15/2013 4:47:05 PM PDT by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: Dallas59

Then you are a Nestorian, who denies that Jesus was in fact the God-man, born of the Virgin, body and soul and divinity, inseparable.


49 posted on 10/15/2013 4:49:22 PM PDT by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: vpintheak

Bait Threads...

I read but normally do not reply..


50 posted on 10/15/2013 4:52:40 PM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: what's up; Alberta's Child

We remain human after passing from this earth. It is not audacious to say that we do not become Deity. Omniscience is an attribute of God, not humans.


While it is true we do not become Deity, we will be given heavenly bodies. Do you know what our heavenly body is capable of doing? I sure don’t.


51 posted on 10/15/2013 4:53:26 PM PDT by rwa265 (Compete well for the faith, lay hold of eternal life (1 Timothy 6))
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To: RobbyS
If we remain human, then we do not cease to be part of mankind. A mother does not cease to be a mother by dying.

I'm not sure what your point is.

Who said anyone ceased to be part of mankind?

Mary too was part of mankind and is in Heaven along with all other saints. Since she is human she is not omniscient.

52 posted on 10/15/2013 5:00:34 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Jonty30
Thanks....I do believe that the communion of saints is scriptural- Paul teaching the early Christians about communion in this world and the book of Revelation (and some Old Testament books) teaching about communion with the Unseen.

It's the Unseen that is fascinating to me- what with billions of souls and all.....God Bless.

53 posted on 10/15/2013 5:02:25 PM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: RobbyS

Huh? Mary was a virgin. But Mary was not a deity. Mary was born a human and died as a human. Jesus was born as a man, tempted as a man and died as a man. He did so to save us the horror of Hell. He was resurrected and ascended into Heaven.


54 posted on 10/15/2013 5:02:53 PM PDT by Dallas59 (Obama: The first "White Black" President.)
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To: what's up

Our relationships do not end when we die. That is an inference from our profession to believe in the Church as the Communion of Saints.


55 posted on 10/15/2013 5:05:25 PM PDT by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: Dallas59

The term “Mother of God” is a loose translation of the term, “Theotokos” — God-bearer.

It is more a statement about the One who was in her womb (the Son, who was both fully man and fully God) than it is about herself (no one believes that she is, say, the source of God Himself).


56 posted on 10/15/2013 5:17:24 PM PDT by MWS
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To: Fai Mao

so the Mother of God was stained by sin ?
the Almighty God couldn’t do anything better in the search for the bearer of His Beloved Son ?
why put human limitations on The Almighty ?

and as for dead believers,when does your eternal life begin ?


57 posted on 10/15/2013 5:18:41 PM PDT by catroina54
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To: MWS; Dallas59

I will add, of course, that whenever I read threads like this one or see the term “Theotokos/Mother of God” used in a way that is meant to cast glory onto Mary, I am reminded of Luke 11:27 - 28.

Any honor due Mary has less to do with whether she physically bore our Lord and more to do with whether she listened to the word of God and obeyed it. I personally believe she did so in a manner worthy of the highest praise... but, as I am not Catholic, I believe this is a point best left to Christian liberty rather than an essential point of that gospel that saves souls.


58 posted on 10/15/2013 5:35:11 PM PDT by MWS
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To: NYer

catholics only love/use Luther when he’s convenient, and in this case, when he’s also wrong.


59 posted on 10/15/2013 5:40:12 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Jonty30

BINGO!
we can respect and admire her just like any other saint that we may read about and admire and respect.

i dont reject Mary, I reject what the roman catholics have turned Mary into.


60 posted on 10/15/2013 5:42:11 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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