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Christ’s church HAS NEVER BEEN a body of invisible people. It is a very visible body of Christians and has been for the last 2,000 years. It is called the Catholic Church. All others are ecclesial communities, with the exception of Orthodox faiths, Orthodox faith communities are called “churches,” though separate from the Catholic Church, as they have retained apostolic succession, the ordained priesthood and the Eucharist. Because of those close bonds, they merit the title of churches and are seen as “sister churches” of specific Catholic churches. Yet, Christian communities “born out of the Reformation” do not share that union as they do not enjoy apostolic succession in the sacrament of orders.These ecclesial communities which, specifically because of the absence of the sacramental priesthood, have not preserved the genuine and integral substance of the Eucharistic mystery cannot, according to Catholic doctrine, be called churches in the proper sense.


1,736 posted on 10/11/2013 1:17:08 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet
Christ’s church HAS NEVER BEEN a body of invisible people. It is a very visible body of Christians and has been for the last 2,000 years. It is called the Catholic Church.

Another argument by assertion, and which i already knew, while the reality is that this sole true visible body is in clear contrast to the NT church, and owes much of its deeds to the unScriptural use of the sword of men or deception , while here today liberalism reigns where it predominates. And which you are stuck with no matter how vainly you try to argue they are excoms. Rome treats them otherwise. Scripturally, the only one true church is the body of Christ, (Eph. 1:23;Col. 1:24) and which is manifest by Christian fellowship of the Spirit, which transcends particular churches or "tribes."

And which i knew nothing of as a devoutly raised RC until i became manifestly born again at age 25, and found very little of this fellowship within the RCC in my 6 years staying there, as explained here , but found far more life without it, due to on a common conversion and living relationship with the risen Lord Jesus.

In contrast, RCs typically promote and defend their church as an idol, that being what they preach, vainly using Jesus to validate it. And which church either arrogantly damns all without it or demeans their churches as not worthy of being called a church.

Meanwhile, your own specious claims in engaging in such promotion have been exposed, as are Rome's. And if you do not want that, then stop promoting this elitist org.

1,740 posted on 10/11/2013 1:53:03 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: NKP_Vet

...they merit the title of churches...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBEn3a4TIUw


1,741 posted on 10/11/2013 1:54:19 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: NKP_Vet

“Christ’s church HAS NEVER BEEN a body of invisible people. “

It has ALWAYS been a body of visible and invisible people.


1,742 posted on 10/11/2013 2:22:19 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I grew up in America. I now live in the United States..)
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To: NKP_Vet
Christ’s church HAS NEVER BEEN a body of invisible people. It is a very visible body of Christians and has been for the last 2,000 years. It is called the Catholic Church. All others are ecclesial communities, with the exception of Orthodox faiths, Orthodox faith communities are called “churches,” though separate from the Catholic Church, as they have retained apostolic succession, the ordained priesthood and the Eucharist. Because of those close bonds, they merit the title of churches and are seen as “sister churches” of specific Catholic churches. Yet, Christian .....

Uh...which Catholic propaganda document did you copy THAT from? We are supposed to show where we do that, you know?

1,776 posted on 10/11/2013 10:48:11 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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