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To: NKP_Vet
Christ’s church HAS NEVER BEEN a body of invisible people. It is a very visible body of Christians and has been for the last 2,000 years. It is called the Catholic Church.

Another argument by assertion, and which i already knew, while the reality is that this sole true visible body is in clear contrast to the NT church, and owes much of its deeds to the unScriptural use of the sword of men or deception , while here today liberalism reigns where it predominates. And which you are stuck with no matter how vainly you try to argue they are excoms. Rome treats them otherwise. Scripturally, the only one true church is the body of Christ, (Eph. 1:23;Col. 1:24) and which is manifest by Christian fellowship of the Spirit, which transcends particular churches or "tribes."

And which i knew nothing of as a devoutly raised RC until i became manifestly born again at age 25, and found very little of this fellowship within the RCC in my 6 years staying there, as explained here , but found far more life without it, due to on a common conversion and living relationship with the risen Lord Jesus.

In contrast, RCs typically promote and defend their church as an idol, that being what they preach, vainly using Jesus to validate it. And which church either arrogantly damns all without it or demeans their churches as not worthy of being called a church.

Meanwhile, your own specious claims in engaging in such promotion have been exposed, as are Rome's. And if you do not want that, then stop promoting this elitist org.

1,740 posted on 10/11/2013 1:53:03 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212

“RCs typically promote and defend their church as an idol, that being what they preach, vainly using Jesus to validate it”

+1

It is strange that when a Roman speaks, he talks about his church, how old it is, who the saints are, about its popes and magnificent buildings. If Christ is mentioned in the conversation, it is either a specious claim that Christ created the Roman church or that Christ is present in the eucharist at the priest’s beck and call.

When you hear a Christian speak, they talk about their Lord, His glory, His body, His church, His bride, His Word, His coming Kingdom and reign.

One uses Christ to validate and justify an institution. The second honors Christ and seeks Him.

The first complains the loudest when everyone doesn’t acknowledge their institution.


1,743 posted on 10/11/2013 2:27:39 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I grew up in America. I now live in the United States..)
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To: daniel1212

“And which i knew nothing of as a devoutly raised RC until i became manifestly born again at age 25”.

The absolute worst Catholic bashers are lapsed Catholics. How anyone could give up the Eucharist and follow a faith started by a motal man, instead of the one started by Christ himself, is beyond me.

I also find that that those that gave up the Catholic faith were totally ignorant of it to start with. Poorly catechised is the main reason. No “devout” Catholic would give up their faith. Just ain’t happen.

And I would suspect the reason that the worse Catholic bashers are lapsed Catholics is because deep inside they they know they did the wrong thing to leave the church, so they lash out at and make fun of anything and everything Catholic.........instead of getting on with their new faith. And if that is not the case, why all the anti-Catholic bigotry. Makes no sense. Anyway these people are to be pitied and prayed for.


1,761 posted on 10/11/2013 6:06:21 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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