Posted on 09/30/2013 11:30:08 AM PDT by NYer
I reject that as a inclusive statement, as a relative remnant shall be saved, far fewer in liberal Protestantism and Catholicism, while many RCs here disagree with your interpretation of Lumen Gentium if you hold that former Catholics now evangelical are even separated brethren. And which elitism is more consistent with historical statements by Rome,
It is not that the Church rejects Protestants, it is that she rejects the notion that there is more than one church.
Capital "C" meaning Prot churches are not worthy to be properly called churches.
While protesting against characterizations of Catholics, what this exchange has done is provide ore evidence Catholic blinders.
The use of Roman did not "seep" from the Reformation but was necessitated long before it. Meanwhile the fact remains, however, the use here of RCC or RC saves me typing. I usually type less than 25 words per minute.
placemarker
Well, you see, Catholics can say broadly describe Protestants as vandals, ignorant, biblically illiterate, typically intellectually dishonest, absolutely alien to Christianity, as a bizarre and false religion, who completely reject Christ, with no solid foundation, and unable to defend it, and who have a perpetual guilt trip (none of which can be applicable Rome in any way), and post multitudes of articles promoting Rome as the one true church and attacking Protestantism, and using strawmen to do so, but they never rant and rave and put down protestants there never has been even a bit of anti-protestant bigotry on FR.
And then they are offended when characterized as having minds in bondage, being unable to objectively examine evidence as to ascertain the veracity of it, which they actually are exhorted not to do as regards official RC doctrine.
Use smaller words...
there are no tanks in baghdad
There has been a recent generalized fall-back, attempts to hide among the general populace, and a plan of attack based on the "victim" meme (all the insurgents have that virus, to greater and lesser degree) from behind which sniper's nests are being arranged (and justified(!)) along with the occasional rhetorical IED triggered in hopes of taking out some lonely patrols, when roadblock diversionary tactics, arranged to block all roads other than those leading to swamps, fail to work as well as hoped.
Community organizing grievance politics, constantly simmering, right here on the pages of FR --- with past "threats" being current implied threat to stir up enough controversy to contaminate the whole joint -- if they don't get their way in having "civil authority" silence their critics for them.
What causes me some concern, is the "virus" itself.
“It is not that the Church rejects Protestants, it is that she rejects the notion that there is more than one church”.
You’re starting to see the Light.
“It is not that the Church rejects Protestants, it is that she rejects the notion that there is more than one church”.
You’re starting to see the Light.
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Protestants believe there is one church too. The totality of the Bride of Christ of all ages.
That is what this is too often blamed on, however as what we believe is defined by what we do, what Rome effectually teaches is that in the end as long as you die in her arms there is strong hope of eternal life, with much confidence in the power of church being thus fostered.
You’re starting to see the Light.
It is what you assert as if seen that is refuted, but which you seem not to see.
I do! But even RCC may fall under the RC definition of bigotry.
Christ’s church HAS NEVER BEEN a body of invisible people. It is a very visible body of Christians and has been for the last 2,000 years. It is called the Catholic Church. All others are ecclesial communities, with the exception of Orthodox faiths, Orthodox faith communities are called “churches,” though separate from the Catholic Church, as they have retained apostolic succession, the ordained priesthood and the Eucharist. Because of those close bonds, they merit the title of churches and are seen as “sister churches” of specific Catholic churches. Yet, Christian communities “born out of the Reformation” do not share that union as they do not enjoy apostolic succession in the sacrament of orders.These ecclesial communities which, specifically because of the absence of the sacramental priesthood, have not preserved the genuine and integral substance of the Eucharistic mystery cannot, according to Catholic doctrine, be called churches in the proper sense.
How DARE they rename the REDSKINS to the Fighting Whities!!!
There is a difference between Seeing the Light
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX5tfRdkoY0
and Feeling the Heat...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Py2LZNb79Q#t=0m48s
I’ve only ever seen ONE person complain about RCC being used.
Another argument by assertion, and which i already knew, while the reality is that this sole true visible body is in clear contrast to the NT church, and owes much of its deeds to the unScriptural use of the sword of men or deception , while here today liberalism reigns where it predominates. And which you are stuck with no matter how vainly you try to argue they are excoms. Rome treats them otherwise. Scripturally, the only one true church is the body of Christ, (Eph. 1:23;Col. 1:24) and which is manifest by Christian fellowship of the Spirit, which transcends particular churches or "tribes."
And which i knew nothing of as a devoutly raised RC until i became manifestly born again at age 25, and found very little of this fellowship within the RCC in my 6 years staying there, as explained here , but found far more life without it, due to on a common conversion and living relationship with the risen Lord Jesus.
In contrast, RCs typically promote and defend their church as an idol, that being what they preach, vainly using Jesus to validate it. And which church either arrogantly damns all without it or demeans their churches as not worthy of being called a church.
Meanwhile, your own specious claims in engaging in such promotion have been exposed, as are Rome's. And if you do not want that, then stop promoting this elitist org.
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