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Signs of a Cult
http://www.reachingcatholics.org/signs.html ^ | Unknown | Greg Durel

Posted on 09/27/2013 1:26:05 AM PDT by jodyel

There are about seven principle signs that identify a cult. Now when one hears the word "cult," the first connotation is that of some strange obscure religious group. But for our discussion the word cult is simply a word that describes organized heresy. In other words, any religious group that systematically teaches false doctrine. Knowing some of these signs is key to preventing people from following these cults.

The sign we will focus on here is the teaching of exclusivity. Cults will declare that they are the only way to heaven. Apart from them there is no salvation. They alone are the repositories of truth and all must join them to be saved. Here one might say, "yea, like the Jehovah’s Witnesses or the Mormons." But to infer, let alone say, that Catholicism is in this class, is to be condemned as a hate monger or Catholic basher.

To demonstrate that Roman Catholicism bears the mark of a cult is quite easy indeed. If we were left to our opinions and personal interpretations, it might be difficult, but Rome has supplied a mass (no pun intended) of evidence to use. For example:

1) "WE BELIEVE THE CHURCH IS NECESSARY FOR SALVATION BECAUSE CHRIST, WHO IS THE SOLE MEDIATOR AND EXCLUSIVE WAY OF SALVATION, RENDERS HIMSELF PRESENT FOR US IN HIS BODY WHICH IS THE CHURCH. WE MUST ALWAYS REMEMBER THE UNITY OF THE MYSTICAL BODY, WITHOUT WHICH THERE CAN BE NO SALVATION, IS OPEN TO NO ONE OUTSIDE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH." Pope Paul VI

2) "THE HOLY UNIVERSAL CHURCH PROCLAIMS THAT GOD CANNOT TRULY BE WORSHIPPED SAVE WITHIN HERSELF, AND ASSERTS THAT ALL THEY WHO ARE WITHOUT HER PALE SHALL NEVER BE SAVED." Pope Gregory the Great (Now how is that for ecumenism!)

3) "THE CHURCH IS LIKE THE ARK OF NOAH, OUTSIDE OF WHICH NOBODY CAN BE SAVED." Thomas Aquinas.

4) "THAT THERE IS ONE HOLY CATHOLIC AND APOSTOLIC CHURCH WE ARE COMPELLED TO BELIEVE AND TO HOLD, PROMPTED BY DIVINE FAITH, AND WE DO BELIEVE THIS FIRMLY AND CONFESS IT SIMPLY, OUTSIDE OF WHICH THERE CAN BE NO SALVATION, OR REMISSION OF SINS…." Pope Boniface VIII

5) "IT IS A SIN TO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS SALVATION OUTSIDE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH." Pope Pius IX

6) "FOR IT IS THROUGH CHRIST’S CATHOLIC CHURCH ALONE, WHICH IS THE UNIVERSAL HELP TOWARDS SALVATION, THAT THE FULNESS OF THE MEANS OF SALVATION CAN BE OBTAINED." Vatican II

Now we have just cited six infallible sources of the Catholic Church to prove without reservations that they believe that they are the only way to heaven. Understand that they are saying that only Roman Catholics have a chance at going to heaven. This is classic cult mentality. The organization becomes the focus and the savior. Allow us to clearly illustrate this fact. In a recent debate with a Jesuit theologian, we were able to ask a very simple yet extremely important question. The question was "what do we have to do to go to heaven?" The answer that followed was very revealing. It clearly proved that Roman Catholicism teaches that every Baptist is going to hell, in addition to every Presbyterian, Methodist, etc. The Jesuit theologian said to go to heaven we must "do" several things. Firstly, believe the entire Bible. (Sounds like a fundamentalist.) Secondly, we must be baptized in water. Thirdly, we must keep the commandments. Fourthly, we must eat His flesh and drink His blood literally (in the sacrament of the mass). He mentioned a couple of others, but these four should suffice.

The Scripture clearly reveals to one and all that salvation comes from believing in the Lord Jesus Christ alone. (Cf. Acts 16:30-31; Eph. 2:8-9; Titus 3:5) The entire book of Galatians was written to demonstrate the futility of believing that the Law justifies or saves anyone. But the "eating" and "drinking" the literal flesh and blood of the Lord Jesus Christ says it all. For according to Roman Catholic theology, this can only be done after a "priest"—and only a priest—says the words of consecration over the bread and wine. Hence, no Catholic Church, no priest. No priest, no Mass or transubstantiation. No transubstantiation, no eating His flesh or drinking His blood. No eating and drinking of Jesus literally, NO SALVATION!

We commend to your reading Hebrews 7, 8, 9 and 10. The mysticism is clearly not biblical and certainly not necessary for anyone to be saved. Their insistence on such heresies places them at the top of the list of religious cults. That statement may seem a bit harsh, but it is nonetheless true. Catholicism does not differ from any of the cults where our first sign is concerned. A closer look at the other signs of a cult further confirm the fact that Catholicism, while large in number, humanitarian in practice, is still unbiblical and perhaps the mother of all "Christian" cults.


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To: Arthur McGowan
As you can see quite easily, the fake quote represents Paul VI as saying that all non-Catholics are damned.

Here's a REAL quote:

"Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned;

and I will go still further and say, take this revelation, or any other revelation that the Lord has given,

and deny it in your feelings, and I promise that you will be damned.

Brigham Young - JoD 3:266 (July 14, 1855)


141 posted on 09/27/2013 6:47:06 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: jodyel
I read this gibberish rant, including the shouted part, wasting 7 minutes of precious lifetime. This subliterate clown first creates his own private definition of something or other (yes I know, 'cult' D'UH, but it could be spaghetti sauce, or global warming), and then, SURPRISE! (sorry) stuffs some part of the universe into this cute definition. Kindergarten age children do that when they invent their own fantasy worlds. There is a name for this kind of crude propagandistic technique when mentally deficient or cynical adults do it, which escapes me at the moment.

And the Catholic Church haters, who haven't converted a single soul here to their heresy, oughta listen to Fats Domino:

Keep a-knockin' but you can't come in,
Keep a-knockin' but you can't come in,
Come back tomorrow and try again...

Which they of course will. With the same pitiful results.

142 posted on 09/27/2013 6:47:43 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Arthur McGowan
...the Christians who are not yet in the full communion...

As a CHRISTIAN who is claimed to be NOT in 'full' communion of the one only Church; I can only state that THIS 'christian' thinks your church's definition of FULL is a lot of unnecessary ritual and rigamarol.

143 posted on 09/27/2013 6:52:52 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Arthur McGowan
You never heard of the “heavenly Jerusalem”?

I've heard of moving goalposts.

They were walking on Earth - not Heaven!

Why is it so DAMNED hard for this to be admitted?

144 posted on 09/27/2013 6:54:24 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Arthur McGowan
The only insults and lies I’ve seen on the thread have come from the anti-Catholics.

You must have polarized glasses!

145 posted on 09/27/2013 6:55:43 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie; Arthur McGowan

House. Cards. Fall. BOOM.


146 posted on 09/27/2013 6:56:00 PM PDT by smvoice (The 2 greatest days of your life: the day you're born. And the day you discover why.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Sounds a LOT like these threads!


147 posted on 09/27/2013 6:56:56 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Arthur McGowan
Since these same people, when they die, are still alive in God, in heaven, to cease asking them to pray for us seems just plain silly.

Then there are going to be some very displaced folks when those graves open up and the DEAD IN CHRIST rise first...

148 posted on 09/27/2013 6:58:45 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Arthur McGowan
The verse from Thessalonians has absolutely no bearing on your point.

Oh?

On whose authority do you say this?

149 posted on 09/27/2013 7:00:03 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: CynicalBear

No; like Galatians 5:12


150 posted on 09/27/2013 7:00:44 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: GeronL

It works for me.

Try it—you might like it.


151 posted on 09/27/2013 7:02:43 PM PDT by miserare (Fire Eric Holder!)
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To: mlizzy
It’s negative IMO if you’re interested in seeing it happen to someone else...

Ah...
'christian' LOVE!!!


Luke 9:52-56

And he sent messengers on ahead, who went into a Samaritan village to get things ready for him; but the people there did not welcome him, because he was heading for Jerusalem.

When the disciples James and John saw this, they asked, "Lord, do you want us to call fire down from heaven to destroy them ?"

But Jesus turned and rebuked them, and they went to another village.

152 posted on 09/27/2013 7:07:50 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Revolting cat!

To show the armadillo it could be done!


153 posted on 09/27/2013 7:08:47 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Chainmail
Hatred and venom is the province of the devil - is that who you choose to follow?


Yeah...

I just HATE it when stuff like that appears!


 


 
Matthew 15:16
   "Are you still so dull?" Jesus asked them.

Matthew 23
 
  1.  Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples:
  2.  "The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat.
  3.  So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.
  4.  They tie up heavy loads and put them on men's shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.
  5.  "Everything they do is done for men to see: They make their phylacteries  wide and the tassels on their garments long;
  6.  they love the place of honor at banquets and the most important seats in the synagogues;
  7.  they love to be greeted in the marketplaces and to have men call them `Rabbi.'
  8.  "But you are not to be called `Rabbi,' for you have only one Master and you are all brothers.
  9.  And do not call anyone on earth `father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven.
 10.  Nor are you to be called `teacher,' for you have one Teacher, the Christ.
 11.  The greatest among you will be your servant.
 12.  For whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.
 13.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to. 
 14.  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation. 
 15.   "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are. 
 16.  "Woe to you, blind guides! You say, `If anyone swears by the temple, it means nothing; but if anyone swears by the gold of the temple, he is bound by his oath.'
 17.  You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred?
 18.  You also say, `If anyone swears by the altar, it means nothing; but if anyone swears by the gift on it, he is bound by his oath.'
 19.  You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred?
 20.  Therefore, he who swears by the altar swears by it and by everything on it.
 21.  And he who swears by the temple swears by it and by the one who dwells in it.
 22.  And he who swears by heaven swears by God's throne and by the one who sits on it.
 23.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices--mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law--justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former.
 24.  You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.
 25.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence.
 26.  Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean.
 27.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites!  You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men's bones and everything unclean.
 28.  In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.
 29.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous.
 30.  And you say, `If we had lived in the days of our forefathers, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.'
 31.  So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets.
 32.  Fill up, then, the measure of the sin of your forefathers!
 33.  "You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?
 34.  Therefore I am sending you prophets and wise men and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town.
 35.  And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.
 36.  I tell you the truth, all this will come upon this generation.
 37.  "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing.
 38.  Look, your house is left to you desolate.
 39.  For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, `Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.' "
 


Mark 7:26-27
 26.  The woman was a Greek, born in Syrian Phoenicia. She begged Jesus to drive the demon out of her daughter.
 27.  "First let the children eat all they want," he told her, "for it is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to their dogs."
 

And St. Paul chimes in...

Galatians 5:12
   As for those agitators, I wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves!
 


154 posted on 09/27/2013 7:10:19 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Salvation
Their souls are alive, get it?

Got it!!


Psalm 13:3
Look on me and answer, Lord my God. Give light to my eyes, or I will sleep in death,
 
Psalm 90:5
Yet you sweep people away in the sleep of death— they are like the new grass of the morning:
 
Daniel 12:2
Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt.
 
 
John 11:12-13
His disciples replied, “Lord, if he sleeps, he will get better.”
Jesus had been speaking of his death, but his disciples thought he meant natural sleep.
 

1 Corinthians 15:51-52
Listen, I tell you a mystery:
We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed—in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. 
For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.
 

Ephesians 5:14
This is why it is said: “Wake up, sleeper, rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you.”
 
 
1 Thessalonians 4:13
Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind, who have no hope.
 

155 posted on 09/27/2013 7:27:55 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

When Christ died on the Cross, then rose from the dead, bodies arose from the graves and walked around Jerusalem only visible to the believers......they were alive! (They had only been waiting for Christ to rise from the dead and enter heaven so that their waiting would be over.)

Time for you to find that in your Bible.


156 posted on 09/27/2013 7:30:27 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Could be some folks redact chapters and verses as well as throw out entire books. Don’t hold your breath.


157 posted on 09/27/2013 7:44:48 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Salvation; Elsie
When Christ died on the Cross, then rose from the dead, bodies arose from the graves and walked around Jerusalem only visible to the believers......they were alive! (They had only been waiting for Christ to rise from the dead and enter heaven so that their waiting would be over.)

OK, the Scripture is in Matthew 27. Who are the holy people that had died? Where does it say that they were only visible to the believers? Where does it say they had only been there waiting for Christ to arise from the dead, so they can enter heaven?

Is your television on right now? There must be something distracting you away from seeing Scripture more clearly. You posit something without foundation, nor clarification. You amplify it and try to find meanings that don't appear anywhere else in scripture. Then you try to continually thought expanding it into a doctrine. That is the way Roman Catholicism has grown to be in error.

We can see dogma and doctrine pranced out each week onto our computer screens here at FreeRepublic. We see the Roman Catholics coming out of the thread high-fiving each other and praising the church as the be-all and end-all for salvation. Those must have been dead people that came out of the grave. Dead. Grave. But, we see nothing of them after that one instance in Matthew. It doesn't appear in the other Gospels, so Scripture tells us to have two or three witnesses in order to establish a doctrine. Theories only work in science.

Salvation only comes through Jesus Christ, not by some poster on FreeRepublic, nor by some group claiming to hold the keys. It is God's free gift without condition other than faith. Roman Catholics are being "led up the garden path", but I can assure you there are lots of thorns at the end. Your church is telling you it is a Primrose Path, with no worries as long as you follow their road. But woe unto anybody that dares fall away from their doctrines, because Roman Catholicism cannot stand when the people see the truth as revealed by the Holy Spirit.

**********

First, whoever “the holy ones” were, Matthew did not say they were raised up. He said their bodies, or corpses, were. Second, he did not say these bodies came to life. He said they were raised up, and the Greek verb e·gei′ro, meaning to “raise up,” does not always refer to a resurrection. It can, among other things, also mean to “lift out” from a pit or to “get up” from the ground. (Matthew 12:11; 17:7; Luke 1:69)

The upheaval at Jesus’ death opened tombs, tossing lifeless bodies into the open. Such occurrences during earthquakes were reported in the second century C.E. by Greek writer Aelius Aristides and more recently, in 1962, in Colombia. ...

****** Matthew 27: 51 At that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth shook, the rocks split 52 and the tombs broke open. The bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. 53 They came out of the tombs after Jesus’ resurrection and went into the holy city and appeared to many people.

158 posted on 09/27/2013 9:12:21 PM PDT by WVKayaker ("The only place that the left hasn't placed the blame is on their agenda..." -Sarah Palin)
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To: WVKayaker

You might do some more reading of Catholic history and theology to answer your own questions.

Who was the first one into heaven?


159 posted on 09/27/2013 9:20:28 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: mlizzy

I will explain later, mlizzy.

Thanks for asking.


160 posted on 09/27/2013 9:54:02 PM PDT by jodyel
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