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1 posted on 09/25/2013 8:27:58 PM PDT by WXRGina
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2 posted on 09/25/2013 8:29:22 PM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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>> declaration that the church needs to shake off its obsession with abortion and homosexuality

if true — IF true — that would be heresy of the highest order.


3 posted on 09/25/2013 8:29:54 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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Thank you. Great post


5 posted on 09/25/2013 8:37:40 PM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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It’s the end of everything as you know it, that’s for sure. Ten years from now the religious landscape will be so totally transformed that no one will recognize it. And no, neither the anti-Christ nor the Second Coming, and certainly not any silly notion of “Rapture” will have come to pass.

Make a mental note of what I just told you.


7 posted on 09/25/2013 8:39:02 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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Heresy . . . or what?


8 posted on 09/25/2013 8:41:34 PM PDT by YHAOS
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Take a look at what Pastor J D Farag has to say about 1st and 2nd Thessalonians.
10 posted on 09/25/2013 8:44:15 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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Reuters and other news agencies are reporting that the Pope has capitulated on several issues such as homosexuality, abortion and contraception. …
Someone is several days late following the news. The Pope blasted abortion in a sermon; and he excommunicated an Australian priest who was gay-marriage friendly, female-priest friendly and reportedly gave the communion host to a dog. (Among other things I cannot recall immediately.)
11 posted on 09/25/2013 8:44:17 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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DOes it matter that he excommunicated and defrocked a priest who was advocating women's ordination and same sex marriage?

The mainstream media are not your friends when it comes to new of the Church. The moral law depends on the Love of God in Christ Jesus, who is the righteousness of God. If we spend a disproportionate amount of time talking about the moral law as it pertains to sex and secual behavior, we risk neglecting the preaching to the Love of God which is in Christ Jesus. Woe is me if I preach not the Gospel!

16 posted on 09/25/2013 8:49:37 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (In te, Domine, speravi: non confundar in aeternum.)
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Just waiting for the, "There is no God!" quote.

21 posted on 09/25/2013 8:55:46 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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If there’s no such thing as “Apostolic Succession,” and no “Catholic Church” before 300 A.D., why are there “bishops” (the Apostolic and sub-Apostolic Fathers) writing in the Second Century?


23 posted on 09/25/2013 8:57:28 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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**Has the Pope Taken His First Steps into Last Days Apostasy?**

No, the following day after the interview he talked about the necessity of not performing abortions to a group of OB/gyns.

Did you see that?


25 posted on 09/25/2013 8:58:04 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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da pope is a senile old man selling wickedness


33 posted on 09/25/2013 9:09:51 PM PDT by WilliamRobert (Ted Cruz is my senator)
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Reuters interviewer to the Pope:

“Have you stopped beating your wife?”

With any news story, especially liberal MSM and doubly so for Reuters, VERIFY what the person being interviewed actually said and in context.

For conservative news sources, trust, but verify.

For emails with the latest incredible story forwarded by kind, loving, honorable (but all too often gullible) friends and relatives, VERIFY before forwarding them on to your entire mailing list.


40 posted on 09/25/2013 9:29:52 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ("Life is short. It's even shorter if you suggest going out for pizza on your anniversary" Peter Egan)
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Who is Rev. Michael Bresciani and why is he so concerned about the Catholic Pope? It’s really noble of him, the world apprec iates it, but let him become concerned about his own sect, whatever it is, Jehovah’s Witnesses, 7th Day Adventists, or Scientologists.


42 posted on 09/25/2013 9:32:31 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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Given that this May, May 21, he denied His Lord and Savior by stating atheists and those that don’t believe in God can get into Heaven by “being good” - WHATEVER THAT VAGUE RELATIVE TERM MEANS - totally invalidating Jesus Christ’s atoning death for all people,

I’d say yes.

Jesus DID die for all. Not ALL take Him up on His offer. NOBODY earns one singe part of their salvation. You can’t do anything “good” to earn one drop of your salvation, you can’t do anything to make it into Heaven on your own.

He that denies the Son denies the Father. They aren’t going to go to Heaven. Denying the Son denies Jesus was God, and denies His saving work for all men.


52 posted on 09/25/2013 10:32:32 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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When Pope Francis has turned the Catholic Church down the path of liberation theology and social justice. Liberation Theology has as its roots, Marxism. Pope Francis is leading the Church into the realm of heresy and apostasy. Along this road, according to Pope Benidict XVI, will be “rebellion, division, dissent, offenses, anarchy . . . that inevitably lead to the betrayal of the cause of the poor and that a Marxist analysis of reality leads to the acceptance of positions that are incompatible with the Christian vision of man.”

It is incredible how stupid men can be to embrace the Marxist world view. It is like a fool shoving a needle of Heroin into his skin and thinking they have found the way, the truth and the happiness.


54 posted on 09/25/2013 10:57:17 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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Pope Francis excommunicates pro-gay marriage priest. He’s not the liberal the media wants
By Tim Stanley Religion Last updated: September 23rd, 2013
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Despite all due temptation, he remains a Catholic.
From all of last week’s headlines saying that the Pope wants to forget this nonsense about abortion and gays, you’d imagine that Germaine Greer had been elected to run the Catholic Church. Actually what the Pope was saying was that he wants the Church to talk more about what it’s for than what it’s against. But that doesn’t mean it won’t still be against those things that contradict its teachings and traditions.
• Can Pope Francis save the Catholic Church?
• The Catholic Church will never be the same
• The mystery of what Pope Francis really believes
Just ask Greg Reynolds of Melbourne – a priest who appears to have been both defrocked and excommunicated because of his radical views on women clergy and gay marriage. From Australia’s The Age:
The excommunication document – written in Latin and giving no reason – was dated May 31, meaning it comes under the authority of Pope Francis who made headlines on Thursday calling for a less rule-obsessed church.
The document might give no explicit reason, but the reason is implicit and well understood: Reynolds has offended Mother Church with his politics. It’s interesting to note that the former priest tells The Age that he “wants the same thing as the Pope” which is “to encourage reform and clear need for renewal in the church.” I read from this that Reynolds has, like many liberals, misunderstood Francis’ words. Structural reform is clearly necessary to prevent future horrors like the child abuse scandal, and renewal is something that Christians always desire. But Reynolds would throw out Catholic doctrine – something Francis would never do because he is, despite the best wishes of so many in the media, a Catholic. His treatment of Reynolds proves that point.
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56 posted on 09/25/2013 11:46:42 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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http://www.gotquestions.org/difference-Rapture-Second-Coming.html

Question: “What is the difference between the Rapture and the Second Coming?”

Answer: The rapture and the second coming of Christ are often confused. Sometimes it is difficult to determine whether a scripture verse is referring to the rapture or the second coming. However, in studying end-times Bible prophecy, it is very important to differentiate between the two.

The rapture is when Jesus Christ returns to remove the church (all believers in Christ) from the earth. The rapture is described in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 and 1 Corinthians 15:50-54. Believers who have died will have their bodies resurrected and, along with believers who are still living, will meet the Lord in the air. This will all occur in a moment, in a twinkling of an eye. The second coming is when Jesus returns to defeat the Antichrist, destroy evil, and establish His millennial kingdom. The second coming is described in Revelation 19:11-16.

The important differences between the rapture and second coming are as follows:

1) At the rapture, believers meet the Lord in the air (1 Thessalonians 4:17). At the second coming, believers return with the Lord to the earth (Revelation 19:14).

2) The second coming occurs after the great and terrible tribulation (Revelation chapters 6–19). The rapture occurs before the tribulation (1 Thessalonians 5:9; Revelation 3:10).

3) The rapture is the removal of believers from the earth as an act of deliverance (1 Thessalonians 4:13-17, 5:9). The second coming includes the removal of unbelievers as an act of judgment (Matthew 24:40-41).

4) The rapture will be secret and instant (1 Corinthians 15:50-54). The second coming will be visible to all (Revelation 1:7; Matthew 24:29-30).

5) The second coming of Christ will not occur until after certain other end-times events take place (2 Thessalonians 2:4; Matthew 24:15-30; Revelation chapters 6–18). The rapture is imminent; it could take place at any moment (Titus 2:13; 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; 1 Corinthians 15:50-54).

Why is it important to keep the rapture and the second coming distinct?

1) If the rapture and the second coming are the same event, believers will have to go through the tribulation (1 Thessalonians 5:9; Revelation 3:10).

2) If the rapture and the second coming are the same event, the return of Christ is not imminent—there are many things which must occur before He can return (Matthew 24:4-30).

3) In describing the tribulation period, Revelation chapters 6–19 nowhere mentions the church. During the tribulation—also called “the time of trouble for Jacob” (Jeremiah 30:7)—God will again turn His primary attention to Israel (Romans 11:17-31).

The rapture and second coming are similar but separate events. Both involve Jesus returning. Both are end-times events. However, it is crucially important to recognize the differences. In summary, the rapture is the return of Christ in the clouds to remove all believers from the earth before the time of God’s wrath. The second coming is the return of Christ to the earth to bring the tribulation to an end and to defeat the Antichrist and his evil world empire.

Recommended Resource: Three Views on the Rapture by Gleason L. Archer, Jr., ed..


65 posted on 09/26/2013 4:57:40 AM PDT by jodyel
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To: WXRGina

Good comment and i agree, but i think the Present pope actually sees what is going on in the Church and the Pope excommunicated an Australian priest who was pro gay-marriage.

And does any one doubt that he has read Revelation 17?.

I too don,t want to sound like a broken record but if the Catholic Church is the great harlot then it is almost certain that the protestant Churches are her daughters, so almost no one wants to even admit that it exists much less talk about it.

Is Rev 17 so plain to Protestants as well as Catholics that no one wants to go there?


68 posted on 09/26/2013 5:25:23 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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Someone on this thread needs to switch to decaf.


69 posted on 09/26/2013 5:38:09 AM PDT by Oratam
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