Posted on 09/24/2013 3:15:26 PM PDT by James R. Aist
I think many today don’t seem to realize that more than being anti-homosexuality, the Bible is very much in favor of the procreation of the species and the continued creation of human beings who might come to faith in God through Christ. Homosexuality is just one of many things that work against that possibility.
It is not an abnormal trait in pagan societies, at least in the West. Western Civilization, though, was made possible by its suppression and the control of sex.
http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/articles2/PragerHomosexuality.php
Why Judaism (and then Christianity) Rejected Homosexuality
Sorry this is not a link. I can't make a link work today. It works with cut and paste, though.
This is a Catholic explanation and it is wrong. Please consider the following scripture:
Please consider the following excerpt from Ligonier:
But if that is true, what are we to think of a passage like Romans 1:2627? The Bible defines homosexual desires as contrary to nature, not an equal alternative orientation. Homosexuality is a dishonorable passion that consumes men and women, leading to shameless behavior. The strong emotional pull of lust and the affections shared between persons in a homosexual relationship whatever those affections may be called cannot properly be called love. After all, love does not rejoice at wrongdoing (1 Cor. 13:6), and homosexuality is wrongdoing. Moreover, the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah over what today would be called private decisions indicates that lust is a serious social problem.
And herein is the ultimate problem with lust: Those overcome with lust receive in themselves the due penalty for their error (Rom. 1:27) and will face the Lord as an avenger in all these things (1 Thess. 4:6). God keeps the unrighteous under punishment until the day of judgment, and especially those who indulge in the lust of defiling passion and despise authority (2 Peter 2:910). Lust blinds men to the fact that it is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of a holy God.
BTW-Except for this one sentence I thought your article was excellent.
I didn’t think that needed a sarcasm sign.
It didn’t. I was just joking.
God made man and women uniquely compatible and complimentary, in more ways than the physical aspect, and only joined them in marriage, which Jesus Himself specified. (Gn. 2:18-24; Mt. 19:4-6) Homosexual unions are only condemned by God in the Scriptures by design and decree, in principle and in precept.
And attempts to force homosexual relations into passages it does not belong extends even to pro homosexual apologetics on the Bible.
However, some of the first Christians were likely former homosexuals, (1Cor. 6:9-11) and there is room at the cross for all who want the Lord Jesus over sin, and believe upon Him to save them who died for them, and rose again. And who thus are baptized and follow Him, to the glory of God.
But the unique compatibility and complementarity btwn male and female, and sexual sanction in marriage, extends beyond procreation. But there is no Song of Solomon glorifying romantic and erotic love btwn same gender couples.
Either way, there’s no such thing as a pro-homosexuality perspective in the Bible. I read where a liberal agreed with this perspective and said something along the lines of “the church didn’t give the world ‘gay rights’. Secularism gave the world ‘gay rights’.” And I have to agree with him. The only reason folks even try to push a non-existent pro-homosexuality perspective into Scripture is that in America and the Western world, Christianity is the dominant religion(at least nominally) and they’re trying to con enough of the nominal and Biblically illiterate folks to believe that so their agenda can be advanced.
“Thus the effect of the prohomosexual hermeneutic is to allow the negation of most any moral command.”
That’s their true goal. In the end, it’s about replacing the church with the all-powerful state.
That criticism (only condemn homosex as part of idolatry due to the cultural contrast these occur in) is so weak that it is not even reasonable. I dismiss it completely.
Yet i believe that beyond that, the devil seeks to defile that which honors God, which both the Bible and the male-female union in marriage does, and the demonic powers behind the homosexual agenda seem to be driven by lust to bring all to affirm the perversity of homosexual relations. The pressed Lot (naively seeking to reason with lust) upon the door to break it down, and today press upon all barriers that are against homosexuality, and fail to affirm it.
Thus they cannot tolerate Scripture opposing them, and therefore they have expended an inordinate amount of labor seeking to negate the Biblical injunctions against homosexual homosexual relations, and to assert sanction for the same.
And in so doing, as in real life, they force sex into passages it does belong in. To their own damnation, with perverting Scripture being even (not diminishing the other) more damnable.
As you should, but as many others do not, it must be refuted, and is.
The only reason the homo agenda is being pushed is that it is an effective vehicle to achieve the goal of criminalizing Christian beliefs.
Did Satan’s temptations of Jesus lead to sin? You seem to be saying that temptation can lead to sin, which is what I was saying. BTW, I didn’t get my understanding of this point from the RCC; I got it from the Bible. That said, I’m glad you liked the article.
I agree; well put.
Good point.
Perhaps you would not be confused by the questioned passages if you would read them in modern English translations...any of them. I find it necessary to continually translate the KJV into modern English in order to understand it’s meaning. Or, you could study it out using the KJV and a Strong’s Concordance keyed to it. Then you would not find these passages confusing anymore. At least that’s what I found.
Temptation is defined as "the desire to perform an action" contrary to God. At the risk of sounding like I'm splitting hairs, while our Lord Jesus was certainly tempted, did He actually experienced temptation (the desire to rebel)? I think we would both agree that our Lord never had a desire to perform an act contrary to God, even when tempted.
For sure, the difference between being tempted and experiencing temptation is subtle but important. Being tempted is external just as our Lord was in the wilderness. Experiencing a temptation would have to be internal. We would consider it, think about it, lust after it. This is part of our old nature. Consider the verse in James:
You asked the question, Did Satans temptations of Jesus lead to sin? Although tempted, do you think our Lord ever entertained any of the temptations of Satan in the wilderness?
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