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THE RAPTURE on The Feast of ROSH HASHANAH
IFB ^ | 8/28/13 | unknown

Posted on 08/28/2013 2:24:50 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman

I found this post which provides great detail and excellent insight into the Feast of Rosh Hashanah and the Rapture. It's Pre- Trib and I thought it was most excellent! Dig in my beloved! The title might sound like that it is setting a date but it isn't at all.

Even so come Lord Jesus!

I.F.

THE RAPTURE ON ROSH HASHANAH - link or read post below

There are important parallels between Jewish feasts and the fulfillment of Christ. For example the Passover is now celebrated as the Lord’s Supper. The Sabbath is now celebrated by the Resurrection.

Some other parallels are: Pesach / Passover Hag HaMatzah / Feast of Unleavened Bread Bikkurim / First Fruits Shavout / Feast of Weeks (Pentecost)

Jewish tradition holds that Rosh Hashanah celebrates the anniversary of the creation of the world, a day when “God takes stock of all of His Creation,” which of course includes all of humanity. Translated from the Hebrew, Rosh Hashanah means “head of the year” – rosh means head, while hashanah means year. Jews believe that God’s judgment on this day determines the course of the coming year.

Rosh Hashanah is a Jewish festival in which most work ceases, just as on the weekly Sabbath. It’s celebrated both in joy and solemnity. During the daily prayer service a ram’s horn, or in the Hebrew, shofar, is sounded: “And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, In the seventh month, in the first day of the month, shall ye have a sabbath, a memorial of blowing of trumpets, an holy convocation. Ye shall do no servile work therein: but ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD.” (Leviticus 23:23-25)

God does not do things in vain, or without purpose. The Old Testament Holy Days were not just some sort of Divine make-work project to keep the Israelites busy while they were out wandering in the desert. All of the Old Testament Holy Days (Passover, Days of Unleavened Bread, The Feast of Weeks, The Feast of Trumpets, The Day of Atonement, The Festival of Tabernacles and the Last Day) were, and continue to be, living symbols of the stages of God’s Plan of Salvation for all humanity. Those events are now in progress, and true Christians are the manifestation of it.

In the Christian world, Rosh Hashanah is known as The Feast of Trumpets. Many Christians observe this festival for its Christian prophetic application – the Rapture of the Church.

“Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.” (1 Corinthians 15:51-53)

“For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.” (1 Thessalonians 4:15-17)

All the Spring Feasts were fulfilled at Christ’s first coming. All the Fall Feasts picture the Second Advent, and the Feast of Trumpets is the first of the fall feasts, picturing the Rapture.

Now there are more feasts to be fulfilled with the second coming.

Yom Teruah (Rosh HaShanah) / Feast of Trumpets The Rapture; the last trump; wedding of the Messiah; New Moon; Open Door Yom Kippur / Day of Atonement Sukkot / Feast of Tabernacles (Booths)

A special season known as ‘Teshuvah’ which in Hebrew means “to return or repent”, begins on the first day of the month of Elul and continues 40 days, ending with Yom Kippur. Thirty days into Teshuvah, on Tishrei 1, comes Rosh HaShanah. This begins a final ten-day period beginning on Rosh HaShanah and ending on Yom Kippur. These are known as the High Holy Days and as the Awesome Days. The sabbath that falls within this ten-day period is called ‘Shabbat Shuvah’, the Sabbath of Return. Five days after Yom Kippur is ‘Sukkot’, the Feast of Tabernacles. Teshuvah begins on Elul 1 and concludes on Tishrei 10, Yom Kippur. Each morning during the 30 days of the month of Elul, the trumpet (shofar) or ram’s horn is blown to warn the people to repent and return to God.

Rosh HaShanah is also referred to as ‘Yom Teruah’, the Day of the Sounding of the Shofar, or the Day of the Awakening Blast. On Yom Teruah, the Day of the Sounding of the Shofar, it is imperative for every person to hear the shofar.

Yom Teruah is the only festival that no man knows when exactly it will occur. This is due to the fact that it begins on the new moon. The new moon was sanctified when two witnesses see the new moon and attest to it before the Sanhedrin in the Temple.

This sanctification could happen during either of two days, depending on when the witnesses come. Since no one knew when the witnesses would come, no one knew when the Feast of Trumpets would start.

On the 30th of each month, the members of the High Court assembled in a courtyard in Jerusalem, where they waited to receive the testimony of two reliable witnesses. They then sanctified the new moon. The new moon is very difficult to see on the first day because it can be seen only about sunset, close to the sun, when the sun is traveling north. So, looking for a very slim faint crescent moon, which is very close to the sun, is a very difficult thing to do. If the moon’s crescent was not seen on the 30th day, the new moon was automatically celebrated on the 31st day.

For this reason, Yom Teruah is always celebrated for two days. These two days are celebrated as though it is just one long day of forty-eight hours. The reason that it is celebrated for two days is because if they waited to start the celebration until after the new moon had been sanctified, they would have missed half the celebration because the new moon can only be sanctified during daylight hours. The command seems to be that we know the season, but not the day or the hour (Matthew 24:32-36).

Yom Teruah, or the Feast of Trumpets, is the only feast that we do not know the day in which to keep it. Therefore, we have to be on the alert and watch for it.

Teruah means “an awakening blast”. A theme associated with Rosh.

HaShanah is the theme “to awake”. Teruah is also translated as “shout”.

The book of Isaiah, chapter 12, puts the shouting in the context of the thousand-year reign of Jesus. The Messianic era and shout is mentioned in Isaiah 44:23 and Zephaniah 3:14. The first coming of Christ is associated with a shout in Zechariah 9:9. The ultimate shout is the Rapture in First Thessalonians 4:16-17.

Whether it is by the blast of a shofar or the force of a supernatural shout, God’s goal is to awaken us. “...Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.” – Ephesians 5:14.

The book of Ephesians has many references to Rosh HaShanah and the high Holy Days. For example, in Ephesians 4:30, being sealed unto the day of redemption refers to Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement. God gave this festival to teach us that we will be judged on Rosh HaShanah and will be sealed unto the closing of the gates on Yom Kippur.

The theme of awakening from sleep is used throughout the Bible. It is found in John 11:11, Romans 13:11, Daniel 12:1-2 and Psalm 78:65.

The shofar was also blown at the temple to begin the Sabbath each week. There are two types of trumpets used in the Bible:

1. The silver trumpet 2. The shofar or ram’s horn

Each sabbath, two men with silver trumpets and a man with a shofar made three trumpet blasts twice during the day. On Rosh HaShanah, it is different. The shofar is the primary trumpet. On Rosh HaShanah, a shofar delivers the first blast, a silver trumpet the second, and then a shofar the third.

According to Leviticus 23:24 and Numbers 29:1, Rosh HaShanah is the day of the blowing of the trumpets.

“Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, in the seventh month, in the first day of the month, shall ye have a sabbath, a memorial of blowing of trumpets, an holy convocation.” – Leviticus 23:24

“And in the seventh month, on the first day of the month, ye shall have an holy convocation; ye shall do no servile work: it is a day of blowing the trumpets unto you.” – Numbers 29:1

The trumpet used for this purpose is the ram’s horn, not trumpets made of metal as in Numbers Chapter 10.

Another name for Rosh HaShanah is ‘Yom HaDin’, the Day of Judgment. The righteous are separated and will be with God. This is known to us as the Rapture. The wicked will face the wrath of God during the tribulation period.

The shofar blown on Rosh HaShanah is known as the last trump, which the apostle Paul mentioned in First Thessalonians 4:16-17. At this time, the believers in Christ will escape the tribulation on earth and will be taken to Heaven in the Rapture along with the righteous who had died before this time.

The gates of Heaven are opened on Rosh HaShanah so the righteous nation may enter (Isaiah 26:2, Psalm 118:19-20). Because the gates of Heaven are understood to be open on Rosh HaShanah, this is further evidence that the Rapture of the believers in Christ will take place on Rosh HaShanah.

One of the reasons for blowing the shofar is to proclaim the resurrection of the dead. The resurrection of the dead will take place on Rosh HaShanah.

In First Corinthians 15:52, the apostle Paul tells us that the resurrection of the dead will be “at the last trump.” Earlier in First Corinthians 15:14, he wrote that without the Lord Jesus rising from the dead, our faith is in vain.

We cannot go to the Book of Revelation and say that the voice of the seventh angel (Revelation 11:15) is the last trump. In the first century, the last trump (shofar) meant a specific day in the year. In Judaism, there are three trumpets that have a name. They are the first trump, the last trump, and the great trump. Each one of these trumpets indicates a specific day in the Jewish year. The first trump is blown on the Feast of Pentecost (Exodus 19:19).

It proclaimed that God had betrothed Himself to Israel. The last trump is synonymous with Rosh HaShanah, according to Theodore Gaster in his book, Festivals of the Jewish Year, in his chapter on Rosh HaShanah. Herman Kieval also states the same thing in his book, The High Holy Days in the chapter on the shofar. The great trumpet is blown on Yom Kippur, which will herald the return of Jesus back to the earth (Matthew 24:31).

The first and last trump relate to the two horns of the ram, which according to Jewish tradition, was caught in the thicket on Mount Moriah when Abraham was ready to slay Isaac and offer him up as a burnt offering. This ram became the substitute for Isaac even as Jesus became the substitute for us and provided life for us through His death.

Rabbi Eliezer tells us in Pirkei Avot, that the left horn (first trump) was blown on Mount Sinai, and its right horn (the last trump) will be blown to herald the coming of the Lord for His Church.

Isaiah 18:3 and First Thessalonians 4:13-18 speak of the resurrection of the dead. First Thessalonians chapter 5 continues with the day of the Lord and the birthpangs of the Messiah. The festivals will, beyond a shadow of a doubt, tell you that the resurrection of the dead precedes the time of Jacob’s trouble (the Tribulation). First Thessalonians 4:16-17 says that the dead in Christ will rise first, and that the catching away of the believers will immediately follow.

The term ‘rapture’ comes from the Greek word ‘harpazo’, which means “to seize, catch away, catch up, pluck, pull, take by force” (1 Thessalonians 4;17). Isaiah 57:1-2 speaks clearly of the resurrection of the dead, the taking of the believers, and the hiding of the believers from the indignation (the tribulation). Zephaniah 1:14-18 and 2:2-3 tells about the terrible times during the day of the Lord, the birthpangs of the Messiah, and issues a decree to repent and turn to God before that day to be hid from that time.

Psalm 27:5 says the righteous will be hid in the time of trouble. Paul in Second Thessalonians 2:1 tells us, “Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto Him.” The phrase “gathering together” comes from the Greek word ‘episunagoge’, which means “an assembly”.

The Feast of Trumpets, through careful study depicts nothing less than the return of Jesus Christ for His Church at the last trump, just before God pours His wrath and judgment on a sinful and Christ rejecting world

To summarize:

The Feast of Trumpets is when the “last trump” of the Rapture of 1 Cor. 15 is blown.

The Feast of Trumpets is known as the Wedding of the Messiah, and the Church is the Bride of Christ, and the Rapture is when the Church is caught up to heaven to be wed with Christ.

The Feast of Trumpets happens on the “new moon”, which is 29.5 days after the last one, meaning it might occur on the 29th or 30th day, nobody knows for sure.

The “Open Door” of the Rapture in Matt 25, and Rev 3, & Rev 4:1 is a symbol of the Feast of Trumpets. [Ezek 46:1] “Thus says the Lord GOD: The gate of the inner court that faces east shall be shut on the six working days; but on the sabbath day it shall be opened and on the day of the new moon it shall be opened.”

“Thus saith the Lord GOD; The gate of the inner court that looketh toward the east shall be shut the six working days; but on the sabbath it shall be opened, and in the day of the new moon it shall be opened.” (KJV)

We are told that the new moon and the Feasts of the Lord are a shadow of things to come in Col 2:16,17. Since the Feast of Trumpets is the only Feast of the Lord that falls on a new moon, we should take particular note.

There are seven Days of Awe in between the Feast of Trumpets and the Day of Atonement. These picture the seven years of tribulation. Atonement pictures Satan being defeated and cast away at the end of tribulation. If you add the two-day Trumpets Feast, and the Day of Atonement, the 7 Days of Awe are “ten days of tribulation” which might be referred to in Rev. 2:10.

In the Jewish Wedding, a marriage takes place over a period of time known as the “bridal week”. During the bridal week, the groom and bride have relations in the bridal chamber. At the end of the week, there is a marriage supper. Compare Judges 14, Rev. 19, and Genesis 29:22-28. This bridal week will be the tribulation week on earth, while the bride of Christ is in heaven.

In the Jewish Wedding, the groom comes for his bride without warning to take (seize / rapture) her away and into the bridal chamber for the bridal week at his father’s house.

The Feast of Trumpets is also known as the coronation of the Messiah, when he will start reigning as king, thus the beginning of the “Day of the Lord”, which includes the Tribulation.


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To: Vermont Lt

Not setting any dates... just putting out a thought on the Rapture.... If you read the post you would know that....

Let me ask you a question... What Jewish feast Day was Messiah crucified on? What Jewish feast Day did He rise from the grave? What Jewish feast day was the “called out assembly i.e., the church” of the Messiah born?.. See the pattern?

The Bible is Jewish to understand it you must think like a Jew.


61 posted on 08/28/2013 7:22:27 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: Errant

Only a small remnat as God’s Word states (Rom. 9:27)

Indeed the Peace of Jerusalem will only come when Messiah returns after HORRIFIC global tribulation Rev. 6-19) and at the climax of the Battle of Armageddon (Rev. 19:11-21)and 2/3’s of the world’s Jews will die during this time (Isa. 4:2-3,Jer. 30:1-8, Zech. 13:8-9, Roms. 9:27). Indeed tragic.


62 posted on 08/28/2013 7:33:12 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: Truth2012

I congratulate you on the purity of your faith in Jesus and in your full-blooded Baptist Jewish Lutheran patrimony. Also I am sorry about all of your Christian Jewish relatives who endured persecution, perhaps in Germany or as Roma Negroes in Armenia.


63 posted on 08/28/2013 7:33:42 PM PDT by golux
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To: golux

If you were really Jewish, you would have ancestors who were persecuted as well. If you read the word of God you would know that the Lord scattered the people and they would all be persecuted - and that He has a purpose for that, for our good, so we don’t feel sorry.

Some of us are not Jews because they have good bagels and lox. Know what I mean?

You may wish to re-think who you think you are better than, because it looks pretty stupid on you.

If you were really Jewish you would know about Jewish customs of adoption, because that would really help you understand the character of God and how all of these things can be.

Anyway- I think this conversations has come to an end, because I don’t think you are being honest.

Shalom


64 posted on 08/28/2013 7:47:23 PM PDT by Truth2012
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To: EinNYC

I am nobody... all I stated was for you to read and study the Torah, Psalms and prophets for yourself... am I a monster for making such a suggestion? Do not even your rabbis teach such things? Why are you so offended? Are you not Jewish? Why then are you so upset if I point out things from the Torah, Psalms and Prophets to you?

Is God relevant? and His Word void? Do whatever you want to do... we all have free will... All I was saying is why do you not read the Torah, Prophets and Psalms for yourself to see what they teach. I gave you many Bible verses for you to look up. Why then are you so horrified and afraid of what the Torah, Psalms and Prophets are saying? Sadly in the end it is always much easier to invest one’s time in listening to others and traditions then making the efforts and studying and investing one’s time for one’s self.

I am not pushing theology just the Word’s of Moses, Isaiah, David, Zechariah all Jewish prophets as they were moved by the Holy Spirit?

This is the religion forum and I am not seeking to insult you... but just objectively talk about the Torah, the Psalms and the Prophets relating to the Messiah of Israel. Those are all quite Jewish thoughts through and through.. Sadly when it comes down to it you do not believe the Torah, the Psalms and the prophets. That is fine and your decision. I did not mean to offend you... just encourage you in the Word of Truth (Psalm 119).

Indeed your last response is quite tragic and exactly what Isaiah stated (Deut. 28-32, Isaiah 6:8-10).

Remember Moses and Elijah... they are coming soon my friend (Malachi 4.)

Shalom in TRUTH and RIGHTEOUSNESS.


65 posted on 08/28/2013 7:56:55 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: Errant

Indeed my friend you get... praise be! My heart goes out. We love the Jews, the apple of God’s eye (Gen. 12:1-3)! Horrifically it will indeed take Jacob’s trouble (Jer. 30:5-7) and great tribulation mentioned by Jeremiah, Zechariah and Isaiah (Isa. 24, Zech.12:8-9, 14:1-4). To bring them to a saving relationship to the Messiah (Zech. 12:10-14, 13:9).

For I tell you, you will not see me again, until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.’” Indeed my friend!

Dan. 2:44-45, 7:13-14, Zech. 12:10-14). The fulfillment of the Day of Atonement.

God speed!


66 posted on 08/28/2013 8:08:37 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: smvoice

Even so come! 1 John 3:1-3!!!


67 posted on 08/28/2013 8:09:22 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: EinNYC
Notice, Jews do not proselytize.

And that was the problem with them.

Jews were entrusted with the oracles of God and made a religion out of it, instead of bringing the world to know the Creator.

68 posted on 08/28/2013 8:53:15 PM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Truth2012
Ahh, yes! Adoption! No, seriously. I have only two questions for you, as you have an insufferable habit of questioning my Jewishness for the sake of - well frankly I don't know why. Something to do with Jesus. You certainly feel strong enough about your "Jewish" superiority. So you have to swear, here, in this forum, to answer them honestly. To make it easy, they are "yes" or "no" questions. 1. Was your mother a Jew? Did she identify as a Jew? 2. Was her mother a Jew? 3. If you are a male, are you circumcized? These questions should be easy enough, and they don't require of you to be "spiritually" Jewish, just "actually" Jewish, in accordance with the Laws of Judiasm. (I grant you feel these laws may be wrong.) So for me: 1. Yes she was. 2. Yes she was. 3. Yes I am. The rest is important, of course (like the little bit about not worshiping idols) but if you can swear, as I hereby do, on the answers to these questions, you are basically a Jew. And if you don't know that, my little friend, you are NOT a Jew. Of course we can go further: Do you keep the Commandments (all of which I do not keep) etc., but above, is basically, "basically" it. I don't expect you to have been Bar Mitzvah or to say Shema or keep Shabbat or even to know any Hebrew or to observe the Holydays... None of that. (Though I do.) But they're really not so important. Surely you can swear to these three simple facts? I do. Then, if you can do so, you are indeed a Jew. And if you are a Jew who follows Jesus, you can call yourself a Christian. But first, please swear on these three things. I trust you.
69 posted on 08/28/2013 9:28:13 PM PDT by golux
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To: golux
(whoops... Three questions! See? Proof positive: I finagled another question in there!)
70 posted on 08/28/2013 9:30:02 PM PDT by golux
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To: golux

So the only thing that is important in your religion is that you have a mother and can identify with your mother, and that you trust that she is not lying or mistaken.

Good thing none of her family line had to go into hiding or flee from their country of origin, or was moved to bring other people to know their maker in new lands, because all of those people have lost all connection with God, right? - because their mothers may have been killed or had to change their name to stay alive or joined other churches to be the remnants there and help bring those children back to God.

So- yes.. Aren’t you the special one? :)

Great. Enjoy your religion, for what good it does for you. It sounds very odd to me, so no thanks. I don’t want any part of that. I don’t want a religion.

I have found tremendous freedom and joy from all of the high days, holidays, seasons, calendars, festivals, and teachings, myself and even the commandments and traditions that Jesus observed. The 10 commandments bring great joy. People who love God love his ways.

Even tho my family ancestry is Jewish on my mother’s side, my own mother is an atheist.

Guess that means I get thrown off the plantation too, huh?

How about all the Jews who sit at passover and resent the heck out of having to be there? BUT their mother forced them, so THEY are Jewish.

Ok. You can have that.

So- the reason I am a Jew is my faith in God and the promises He has kept to me personally and my deep love for Jerusalem and all her ways.

And you are the one who insists that everyone is a “wannabe” let recall.

How about this. YOU be the “real Jew” and I will be the “wannabe” and I will rejoice that I have a savior and my name is written in Heaven. You have your mother’s word that you are “Jewish”

Enjoy it.

Have a great day.


71 posted on 08/29/2013 4:54:31 AM PDT by Truth2012
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To: EinNYC
There are both good and bad things in Fundamentalist Protestantism's fixation on Jews and Judaism. More than any other form of chrstianity, Fundamentalist Protestants understand that in order to be true, in order to be what it claims to be, chrstianity must be the "fulfillment" (G-d forbid!) of Judaism.

The bad part of this is of course the Jewish/chrstian syncretism and possibility of Jewish souls being ensnared (G-d forbid!).

But there are good things too. Fundamentalist Protestants look up to Jews as genuine (a compliment they don't pay to the ancient chrstian communities). They even acknowledge their authority (or at least expertise) in a limited way. Torah Jews should take advantage of this situation to educate well-meaning non-Jews about the Truth of Torah as opposed to all other religions. It's almost impossible to get them to drop their preconceptions, but I believe the effort must be made.

Telling chrstians to stick to their own religion, when that religion is objectively false, is counterproductive IMHO.

72 posted on 08/29/2013 6:42:22 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: editor-surveyor
Rosh Hashanna is a creation of the Rabbis, not of Yehova. `The real Rosh Hashanna is the first day of the Aviv.

::Sigh:: It never ends, does it?

The first day of the first month is the new year for reckoning the seasons, the festal calendar, and the reigns of Jewish kings. The first day of the seventh month is the "new year for years," ie, the reckoning of history and chronology.

The Sabbatical and Jubilee years, which are to be observed every seven years (in the case of the former) and fifty years (in the case of the latter) begin and end in the seventh month, not the first month, because that is when the "calendar year" begins.

The first day of the seventh month (Ro'sh HaShanah) is the anniversary of the Sixth Day of Creation, when Adam was created. The anniversary of the First Day of Creation is the 25th day of the sixth month, which is this coming Shabbat.

73 posted on 08/29/2013 6:55:41 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: Truth2012

Precisely. Though you call yourself a Jew because you have personal feelings about the matter, or have personal promises from your god or gods, and use words like “family ancestry is Jewish,” being Jewish - according to Jewish law - is not about your feelings.

The reason it “matters” to me is because your previous posts consisted among other things of accusations that I myself was somehow not a Jew or a real Jew, and that you were.

This thread ends of course with your not being quite sure what you’re talking about again and your whimpering business about “you can have this religion, I don’t want it.”

Capricious, proud, dishonorable, vacillating, weak, and sinful. Enjoy your special spot in Heaven, we’ll be in the back with the musicians.


74 posted on 08/29/2013 7:27:05 AM PDT by golux
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Please ping me, if andd when when you think of it, when you comment on issues related to these. I find your thoughts very interesting. Thanks!


75 posted on 08/29/2013 7:28:40 AM PDT by golux
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To: golux; Truth2012; All
Do NOT make this thread "about" individual Freepers. That is also a form of "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

76 posted on 08/29/2013 7:59:08 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: EinNYC; editor-surveyor
EinNYC, this thread is posted as an "open" thread in the Religion Forum. That means that posters may argue either for or against deities, beliefs, religious authorities, etc.

The main guideline here is to "discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal."

Accusing another Freeper personally of telling lies is a form of "making it personal" because it attributes motive, the intent to deceive. Any kind of mind reading of other Freepers, personally, is making it personal. Making the thread "about" other Freepers individually is also a form of making it personal.

If you do not wish to see Religion Forum posts, do NOT use the "everything" option on the Free Republic browse option list. Instead, browse by "News/Activism." When you log back in, the browse will reset to "everything" - so be sure to set it back to "News/Activism."

editor-surveyor, you have been on open threads in the Religion Forum for a very long time. You should know by now to discuss the issues and not "make it personal." If you cannot or will not comply with the guideline on this thread, then leave the thread.

77 posted on 08/29/2013 8:18:52 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Pharisaical absurdity.

Yehova declares what is so, not rabbis.

And you are right, it will never end.


78 posted on 08/29/2013 9:31:52 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: golux

Umm. You posted to me first and called me a wannabe. Then you proceeded to be extremely rude.

I asked you to prove then , that you are a Jew. Since you were disputing that I was Jewish. You refused to do that, so I said that made me suspicious that you were a Jew at all. Now you want to play the victim? You are pouting? You want to twist the events so you can gain sympathy?

That is what leftists do. It is filthy behavior.

So anyway- as I said, this discussion isn’t going anywhere.

Enjoy your religion. Bye.


79 posted on 08/29/2013 9:50:10 AM PDT by Truth2012
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Why would you bother educating anyone? Unless you were just trying to rub it in?

Seems that you agree with the other poster that only special people, the ones whose Mother swore she was Jewish, are Jewish. And of course the Jewish religion is the only way to know God, so everyone else is worthless and hopeless.

Some people don’t know their Mothers. All God’s plan, no doubt for the world, and would explain why there are so few official “Jews”.

Most people’s ancestry have gone thru life changing events, save a few special people who were not really involved with much history, because their lives were never on the line.

And according to your Jewish law, none of the rest of us count for anything, because there is no hope for us.

God only cares about the very special few, is what you are saying, so why bother telling them about what they can not be a part of?

Right? SO why bother educating anyone about the Torah or God?

Not much they can do about it anyway? Other than feel pain that you all are the special chosen few, and we can do nothing at all to change our lot in life.


80 posted on 08/29/2013 10:06:15 AM PDT by Truth2012
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