[CynicalBear]

That’s all well and good except Catholics believe forever virgin when saying “virgin birth” and “apostolic Church” (notice the capitalized church) neither which are substantiated by scripture.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Actually, we do believe in Mary's perpetual virginity, but that's not what's specifically affirmed in the Nicene Creed. The Creed says Christ was "born of the Virgin Mary" --- which, if I'm not mistaken, all Christians believe.

As for your second point, I am not sure what you mean. Weren't the Apostles the founding preachers/teachers/church-planters, so to speak, of the Christian Church? Don't all Christians believe that? (I doubt the capitalization is a salient point. I'm not sure what words are capitalized in Greek, the original language of the Nicene Creed.)

(Please forgive me if my points aren't exactly apt. I did not go back and real all the discussion that went before, and now it's bedtime for me. I'm getting up early tomorrow.)

G'night, everybody, and God bless!

[Salvation]

Strange, but some other famous Protestants agreed with Catholics!!!!!!!!!

Essays for Lent: Mary Ever-Virgin
Why is the perpetual virginity of Mary so important to Catholics? [Ecumenical Vanity]
Is the Perpetual Virginity of Mary a Biblical View?
Aeiparthenos (An Anglo-Catholic Priest on Mary's Perpetual Virginity)
The Heõs Hou polemic is over: Radio Debate Matatics VS White & Svendsen on Perpetual Virginity Mary
The Early Church Fathers on Mary’s Perpetual Virginity - Catholic/Orthodox Caucus
The Heõs Hou polemic is over: Radio Debate Matatics VS White & Svendsen on Perpetual Virginity Mary
Luther, Calvin, and Other Early Protestants on the Perpetual Virginity of Mary
Luther, Calvin, and Other Early Protestants on the Perpetual Virginity of Mary