[Mrs. Don-o]

Actually, we do believe in Mary's perpetual virginity, but that's not what's specifically affirmed in the Nicene Creed. The Creed says Christ was "born of the Virgin Mary" --- which, if I'm not mistaken, all Christians believe.

As for your second point, I am not sure what you mean. Weren't the Apostles the founding preachers/teachers/church-planters, so to speak, of the Christian Church? Don't all Christians believe that? (I doubt the capitalization is a salient point. I'm not sure what words are capitalized in Greek, the original language of the Nicene Creed.)

(Please forgive me if my points aren't exactly apt. I did not go back and real all the discussion that went before, and now it's bedtime for me. I'm getting up early tomorrow.)

G'night, everybody, and God bless!

[CynicalBear]

>> The Creed says Christ was "born of the Virgin Mary" --- which, if I'm not mistaken, all Christians believe.<<

Let me compare it to something. Mormons also claim they believe in Jesus. Do you believe they mean the same thing as you?

>> Weren't the Apostles the founding preachers/teachers/church-planters, so to speak, of the Christian Church?<<

Not like the Catholics would have us think.

[metmom]

Actually, we do believe in Mary's perpetual virginity, but that's not what's specifically affirmed in the Nicene Creed. The Creed says Christ was "born of the Virgin Mary" --- which, if I'm not mistaken, all Christians believe.

Of course Christ had to be virgin born to fulfill prophecy, but that is it. There's no requirement for Mary to remain a virgin after that. The angel did tell Joseph to take Mary as his WIFE. And he did not *know* her until AFTER she gave birth to Jesus.