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Catholic priest praises embattled evangelical pastor
Renew America ^ | 8-17-13 | Matt C. Abbott

Posted on 08/17/2013 8:43:03 PM PDT by ReformationFan

From Catholic World News (Aug. 16): Citing the Alien Tort Statute, which became law in 1789, a U.S. district judge has ruled that a Ugandan umbrella LGBTI (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and intersex) organization may sue an American evangelical pastor in U.S. court for allegedly committing 'crimes against humanity.'

The Alien Tort Statute (ATS) permits foreign citizens to sue U.S. citizens in U.S. courts for actions 'committed in violation of the law of nations or a treaty of the United States.'

According to the court decision, Scott Lively, a Massachusetts pastor, reportedly traveled to Uganda, spoke out against homosexuality, linked homosexuality to pornography and pedophilia, and assisted government officials with the drafting of anti-homosexuality legislation.... I asked Father Richard Perozich, a (faithful) priest of the Diocese of San Diego, to comment on the above development. Father Perozich's response: I personally have been in attendance where Dr. Scott Lively speaks on the issues of sexuality. He is courteous, biblical, and loving toward anyone who is not following chaste biblical living. He relates his many years of persecution by those who disagree with him. He tries to bring people to Christ for the salvation of their souls. He is once more a victim of an ideology which demands total submission to its agenda, this time in the form of the judiciary.

In ancient Rome, rather than kneel before the false gods of the Romans, Christians were stripped of their power, their possessions, their freedom, and finally their lives. In the United States of the year 2013, Christians like Dr. Lively once again refuse to bow down to the false gods of lust and homosexuality and refuse to offer them the ignoble sacrifices of 'equality,' 'rights,' 'justice' and 'fairness' that they demand.

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TOPICS: Catholic; Evangelical Christian; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; mattcabbott; religiousliberty; religiouspersecution; scottlively; uganda

1 posted on 08/17/2013 8:43:03 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan; Mrs. Don-o

Ping.


2 posted on 08/17/2013 8:44:03 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: massmike

ping.


3 posted on 08/17/2013 8:46:21 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: ReformationFan

The Reason why Scott Lively has been continually attacked (like everyone with the Truth, since Socrates and Jesus Christ and St. Paul and Brietbart) is because he wrote an awesome, well-researched book-—called the Pink Swastika.

It explains the homosexual obsession-—the learned lifestyle-—(surprise)—it is a learned behavior, since the Ancient Spartans all were sodomites/pederasts-—to todays Afghanis/Saudis who are pederasts/sodomites.

Homosexuality is a worldview which hates God’s Design of the human body—they are devoid of Judeo-Christian Ethics.

If high school kids were exposed to this book-—instead of “Pride in anal sex” parades-—they would “Think” Rationally. We OWE Scott L. a ton of thanks for his sacrifice and putting himself in that homomafia bullseye. The evil homosexuals/Brownshirts-—are the most brutal, inhumane, intollerant people because they habituate dehumanizing/vile acts on themselves and others continually-—which removes all human dignity from people.

http://www.thepinkswastika.com/5294/index.html


4 posted on 08/17/2013 9:06:58 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: savagesusie
4 ... It explains the homosexual obsession-—the learned lifestyle-—(surprise)—it is a learned behavior, since the Ancient Spartans all were sodomites/pederasts-—to todays Afghanis/Saudis who are pederasts/sodomites. ...

According to Greek historian Victor Davis Hanson, there exists a widespread myth that a major component of Spartan military training included pairing soldiers (hoplites) and encouraging them to become homosexual lovers. In this way, so goes the reasoning, the soldiers would fight even harder to defend their lovers. The historical evidence shows that the Spartans did not instruct their youth to be homosexuals and did not train their soldiers to be homosexuals. The likeliest explanation for the myth is attributed to historical confusion/conflation. About 100 years after the Battle of Thermopylae (480 B.C.) and the heroic last stand of the Spartan 300, a select group of soldiers was organized in the Greek city-state of Thebes. The Sacred Band of Thebes was a troop of picked soldiers, consisting of 150 pairs of male lovers/bi-sexuals-homosexuals (300 in all) which formed the elite force of the Theban army in the 4th century BC. It was said to have been organized by the Theban commander Gorgidas in 378 BC and to have played a crucial role in the Battle of Leuctra. It was annihilated by Philip II of Macedon in the Battle of Chaeronea in 338 BC.

A widely known Spartan symbol, adopted in the 420s BC, was the Greek letter lambda (Λ), standing for Laconia or Lacedaemon, which was painted on the Spartans' shields. The Greek letter lambda (Λ) was selected as a symbol by the Gay Activists Alliance of NY in 1970. In DEC 1974, the lambda was officially declared the international symbol for homosexual rights by the International Gay Rights Congress in Edinburgh, Scotland. The lambda signifies unity under oppression. The homosexual rights organization Lambda Legal and the American Lambda Literary Award derived their names from this symbol.

5 posted on 08/17/2013 9:55:53 PM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: MacNaughton

Which led to the old joke, “How do they separate the men from the boys in the Greek Army? With a crowbar.”


6 posted on 08/17/2013 9:58:37 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: ReformationFan

LGBTQ, now it’s LGBTI? FUBAR is a more appropriate acromyn.


7 posted on 08/17/2013 11:07:13 PM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: MacNaughton

I respect Hanson somewhat but his wording is misleading (if that is his wording). The Greeks did NOT think of homosexuality in terms of today-—so you are nonsensical (or Hanson is) when you talk about Greeks training their men to be “homosexual”.

That concept of today was created by German pederasts in the 1800’s who wanted to normalize homosexuality and man/boy sex in the late 1800’s in a Christian Europe. They founded the German Boy Scouts and lots of institutions to promote homosexuality, particularly in Germany. It became the “National Vice” of Germany by 1920. Officials would joke about watching your “back” if doing business with German politicians.

First of all, there was no sexual morality in Greece to speak of—in the Christian sense. They allowed men to woo boys and give them gifts so they would be “partners”. Even their myths-—Zeus and Ganymedes (the boy who was lusted after and raped)—are filled with man/boy combo-—and their art on vases,etc. Boys were the preferred recreation for sex. Men acting the submissive role was discouraged-—always—except maybe in the “Sacred Band of Thebes”. To group these as “bi-sexual” and “homosexual” is misleading-—those concepts didn’t exist in Greece. What did exist was a rejection of women—hatred for women (dehumanization of women)—much like you see in muslim countries.

The Greeks wanted men to marry women-—the concept of homosexual “marriage” didn’t exist because it was stupid——and offspring was essential for the cities-—but the “homosexuality” was so rampant because men were encouraged to select boys (trained in sodomy) because it was emasculating to play the passive/female role. When a boy reached manhood—they were NOT supposed to be treated like women and were encouraged to take boys for recreational sex-—but marry women and produce offspring.

The Greeks had to create all sorts of incentives to encourage men to marry women-—they enjoyed recreation with men and boys-—and were bored with women who were inferior-—just like in the muslim countries. Among all Greeks, the relationship of eromenos (passive/youth) and erastes (adult) was considered to be a normal thing. BTW, first sexual experiences are embedded in limbic area and determines preference/norm. it is why Chastity Bono prefers women-—she was raped by a Lesbian when she was 11. Same with Harry Hay—raped when he was 10 or so by a sailor and he loved it.

There was no such concept of “bi-sexual” “homosexual” in Ancient Greek....it is ridiculous to put 19th/20th century concepts onto the Greeks.


8 posted on 08/18/2013 12:05:46 AM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: savagesusie
"The Dangers of Education"
by Victor Davis Hanson
NRO’s The Corner
Posted on August 15, 2007
http://victorhanson.com/wordpress/?p=3557

I don't think we are disagreeing. I am just passing along VDH's opinion, since the man has a PhD in Classics and has written extensively on Sparta. I, too, have read The Pink Swastika and am familiar with its contents.

9 posted on 08/18/2013 12:26:32 AM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: savagesusie
"According to Greek historian Victor Davis Hanson, there exists a widespread myth..."

Apparently Hanson says the "Spartans trained their soldiers to be homosexuals" thing is a myth. He's debunking this view.

10 posted on 08/18/2013 4:40:30 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("No one on earth has any other way left but -- upward.” - Alexander Solzhenitsyn)
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To: ReformationFan

Thanks for the ping. I can foresee very, very bad days ahead.


11 posted on 08/18/2013 4:41:14 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("No one on earth has any other way left but -- upward.” - Alexander Solzhenitsyn)
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To: ReformationFan
I went to Uganda recently. The people are very, very hostile to homosexuality. An openly gay man would risk his life to behave like they do here in the States. I have been told the rapes (of all kinds) and scourge of STD’s from the army of Idi Amin are the reason.

This pastor would have been “preaching to the choir” down there. Something is fishy with this story and that organization.

12 posted on 08/18/2013 6:51:59 AM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: jdsteel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euXQbZDwV0w..Disgusting, but relevant and true.


13 posted on 08/18/2013 7:05:56 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Right-—but he is not making it clear that Greeks never “thought” in the terms of “homosexual” or “bisexual”.

How you use words is essential in understanding concepts-—and vocabulary/concept on “homosexuality” was literally changed by a group in the late 1800’s who wanted to change “perceptions” on the widespread activity of pederasty-—because Christianity was so successful in making man/boy sex “evil”. People like John Maynard Keynes/Wittgenstein were not that rare-—nor were they really “shunned” by the elites, although Keynes was having orgies with boys and everyone knew it.

It was only in terms of “erastes-eromenos” which was considered normal for the Greeks and Romans. They never for a minute, thought that marriage/procreation wasn’t essential to the survival of the City-State. The “thought” of homosexual, never existed.

It was actually Kinsey who stated that sex was “fluid” and anything could be made into an “object” of desire—if done at a young enough age and the elimination of Christian morality which he and all Postmoderns reviled because they thought it destroyed “freedom”. Normalization/habituation of sexual practices was a huge determinate in the practice/customs of the people.


14 posted on 08/18/2013 9:35:51 AM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: savagesusie
Just a note to be fair to Ludwig Wittgenstein: I think the most we can say about his sexuality is that he was "not heterosexual." But that does not mean he was one of the flaming Cambridge gays.

John Maynard Keynes invited him to join the Cambridge Apostles, and Wittgenstein left it as soon as he perceived that it was essentially an intellectual sodomite society.

His student and later close colleague, G.E.M. Anscombe, was convinced that Wittgenstein became a strict ascetic and celibate after his military service in the First World War, when he gave away all his money (an incredible fortune, one of the largest in Europe) and rejected "luxuria" in both the sense of lust and luxury.

He was tormented by emotional attachments to certain male friends for most of his life, but as he abstained from sexual contact and self indulgence, I don't think he should be classified with a fertig pederast like Keyes.

15 posted on 08/18/2013 10:27:15 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("No one on earth has any other way left but -- upward.” - Alexander Solzhenitsyn)
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16 posted on 08/18/2013 12:00:48 PM PDT by the jogger
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To: the jogger

Hmmm?


17 posted on 08/18/2013 2:29:32 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("No one on earth has any other way left but -- upward.” - Alexander Solzhenitsyn)
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To: MacNaughton

Spartans as homosexuals has always been a liberal myth.


18 posted on 08/18/2013 8:47:36 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Well, you are correct (again).....I was just being a little lazy. Keynes was such an evil b*stard—that to associate any name with his—unless they are as evil as an obama, Hillary or Jerry Brown—really Satanic people-—is really not fair at all.

The prevalence of homosexuality with wealth/power was the point I was trying to make. Elites were the ones who targeted the young boys—had access to the young boys. Wittgenstein and his brothers were victims, actually.

I like Wittgenstein, a lot -—his concepts on Language are brilliant (he is a true genius) and his education in Mathematics/Logic-—really appeal to me—I always thought that was why he remained a “conflicted” person— He could never eject Reason completely, and understood the perverse “feelings” in a Rational way-— unlike Keynes who embraced depravity/perverion/Satanism (irrationality).

It is said that he attempted suicide also-—but not successfully like three of his brothers. He came from a very dysfunctional family—maybe because of extreme wealth. They always become targets of evil people.....who flock around money, power and boys.


19 posted on 08/18/2013 9:32:55 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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