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Catch-22 for Catholic Hospitals under Obamacare
WDTPRS ^ | August 10, 2013 | Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

Posted on 08/11/2013 5:42:26 AM PDT by NYer

You are a homeless person. You are sick and you know it is bad. You stagger into the ER of St. Ipsidipsy Catholic Hospital in Tall Tree Circle. You have no insurance, health coverage, or money. You are seen by a doctor and treated.

The Obama Administration then punishes the hospital for treating you, a person without government-approved obligatory Obamacare.

From the Daily Caller:

Obamacare installs new scrutiny, fines for charitable hospitals that treat uninsured people

Charitable hospitals that treat uninsured Americans will be subjected to new levels of scrutiny of their nonprofit status and could face sizable new fines under Obamacare.

A new provision in Section 501 of the Internal Revenue Code, which takes effect under Obamacare, sets new standards of review and installs new financial penalties for tax-exempt charitable hospitals, which devote a minimum amount of their expenses to treat uninsured poor people. Approximately 60 percent of American hospitals are currently nonprofit.

Charity for the uninsured is one of the factors that could discourage enrollment in Obamacare, which requires all Americans to purchase health insurance or else face new taxes themselves from the IRS. [You all get that, right?]

“It requires tax-exempt hospitals to do a community needs survey and file additional paperwork with the IRS every three years. This is to prove that the charitable hospital is still needed in their geographical area — ‘needed’ as defined by Obamacare and overseen by IRS bureaucrats,” said John Kartch, spokesman for Americans for Tax Reform.

Failure to comply, or to prove this continuing need, could result in the loss of the hospital’s tax-exempt status. The hospital would then become a for-profit venture, paying income tax — hence the positive revenue score” for the federal government, Kartch said. “Obamacare advocates turned over every rock to find as much tax money as possible.” [Sly, no?]

Additionally, the rise in the number of insured Americans under Obamacare will make it more difficult for tax-exempt hospitals to continue meeting required thresholds for treating the uninsured, driving more hospitals into the for-profit category and yielding more taxable money for the federal government.

“The requirements generally apply to any section 501(c)(3) organization that operates at least one hospital facility,” according to a “Technical Explanation” report of new Obamacare provisions prepared by the congressional Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT) on March 21, 2010, the day Obamacare passed.

Obamacare’s new requirements could slam hospitals with massive $50,000 fines if they fail to meet bureaucrats’ standards.

[...]

Read the rest there.

So, the Obama Administration forces everyone to get health coverage, but for a non-profit hospital to maintain its non-profit status, it has to treat a minimum number of those without coverage. But that pool of people will shrink dramatically, thus driving hospitals into the taxable category.

Good grief.

“Good morning, ma’am! We’re from the government and we’re here to help!”



TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: charity; frjohnzuhlsdorf; health; hhsmandate
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1 posted on 08/11/2013 5:42:26 AM PDT by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...

Last winter, my daughter who was unemployed at the time, needed an outpatient surgical procedure. I took her to a Catholic hospital. After completing a series of forms and providing supporting documentation, her medical bills were slashed by 90%, under a special catholic charitable fund established for just this type of situation. God help us all!


2 posted on 08/11/2013 5:45:07 AM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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To: NYer

But but but ... the USCCB SUPPORTED OBAMA in this....Yup they did!! Even though this law embodies much of what Catholics consider pure evil.


3 posted on 08/11/2013 6:02:52 AM PDT by browniexyz
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To: NYer
Convoluted, treacherous evil of this level is either carefully planned or supernaturally inspired.

The evil here seems to be beyond normal human limits.

4 posted on 08/11/2013 6:04:24 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Behavior Insights Team Exigency Monitoring Executive (BITEME))
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To: Aevery_Freeman

And it’s growing!


5 posted on 08/11/2013 6:07:50 AM PDT by Errant
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To: NYer; zot; Interesting Times; Alamo-Girl; SeekAndFind

Why should I be surprised when the current administration and democrat legislation punishes religious charities for helping the poor, according to our Christian beliefs, when it replaces government ‘charity.’ (and I use the word ‘charity’ here in sarcasm.)

This article needs to be shared on facebook.


6 posted on 08/11/2013 6:09:59 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: NYer
Sure sounds like the plan was written with the express purpose of putting Charitable Hospitals out of business.

The Government wants control of every facet of your life. There will be Government health care or no health care at all.

7 posted on 08/11/2013 6:29:21 AM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: browniexyz
the USCCB SUPPORTED OBAMA in this

No, they did not. The Catholic Hospital Association, did. Big difference!

Catholic Hospital Association Continues to Provide Cover for ObamaCare's Abortion Funding

8 posted on 08/11/2013 6:34:50 AM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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To: browniexyz

That post is clueless and uninformed. They opposed it and it was preached in church under the direction of the Bishops.


9 posted on 08/11/2013 6:36:30 AM PDT by impimp
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To: NYer

Is this part of what Congress and Obortion O did NOT read?

**So, the Obama Administration forces everyone to get health coverage, but for a non-profit hospital to maintain its non-profit status, it has to treat a minimum number of those without coverage. But that pool of people will shrink dramatically, thus driving hospitals into the taxable category.**


10 posted on 08/11/2013 7:05:08 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: GreyFriar

Thanks for the ping!


11 posted on 08/11/2013 7:06:36 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: browniexyz
The Bishops of the USCCB and many others have been standing up against Obamacare. Have you missed ALL these FR threads?



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12 posted on 08/11/2013 7:11:25 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer

Under existing law no hospital can turn away anyone who shows up in their ER needing care based on their ability to pay. This includes illegal immigrants. So illegal Maria shows up at the ER in labor and delivers a 4# baby who then spends 6 months in the NICU racking up $300,000 in medical costs. The hospital currently has to write this off as charitable care. It wouldn’t take very many cases like this to push the hospital over the edge of this Obamacare rule. Yet these illegals do not have insurance and presumably are not eligible for Obamacare.


14 posted on 08/11/2013 8:00:34 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: browniexyz

“But but but ... the USCCB SUPPORTED OBAMA in this....Yup they did!! Even though this law embodies much of what Catholics consider pure evil”.

Care to give me a link to that assertion? You can’t because it’s a lie.


15 posted on 08/11/2013 8:05:12 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NYer

The important thing is that we amnestize 30 million more Mexicans so they can vote for the party of free stuff and “getting over”, which just happens to be the party that persecutes Catholic hospitals.


16 posted on 08/11/2013 8:23:13 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (People are idiots.)
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To: NYer

As a donor to these funds, this upsets me. I don’t send a lot, however, to me, this is the best way to support health care for the poor: Allow the hospitals to give the care, then work out the bill as needed.


17 posted on 08/11/2013 8:42:31 AM PDT by PrincessB (Drill Baby Drill.)
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To: browniexyz
"But but but ... the USCCB SUPPORTED OBAMA in this....Yup they did!! "

No, they didn't. It's always interesting to see people on a conservative site who are addicted to sucking on the sweet government propaganda teat so much that they believe whatever the minions of King Barry tell them.

18 posted on 08/11/2013 9:17:20 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Aevery_Freeman
>> The evil here seems to be beyond normal human limits.<<

That’s a fact! The things that have been happening in the last several years are beyond anything I could have imagined before.

19 posted on 08/11/2013 11:24:47 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: Rashputin
It's always interesting to see people on a conservative site who are addicted to sucking on the sweet government propaganda teat so much that they believe whatever the minions of King Barry tell them.

What to do, what to do?

20 posted on 08/11/2013 1:34:10 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Thus, my opponent's argument falls.")
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