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To: vladimir998

“No. The prayers of others can only be about grace.”


What does this have to do with a scale up in heaven weighing your bad and good works against each other? As to the Rosary, if one must receives “grace” as a “reward” for wearing or repeating a rosary, it certainly is not grace, because grace, by definition, is the free gift of God on an undeserving sinner. It cannot be earned. It is simply mercy, given by the sovereign King. Nor can there be any grace at all without the blood of Jesus, by which case all our bad works are cleansed immediately simply through faith, which itself is the gift of God. To say that there is a “scale” up in heaven at all, weighing your bad works with your good works to begin with, is a denial of the finished work of Christ on the cross.

“Thus, Christ’s death on the cross saves.”


But yet, it did not save, according to your Saint. It was the intercession of Mary that saved because of the Rosary. If it was Christ that saved, then it would conclude with Christ simply saying “thy sins are forgiven thee,” in response to his faith, as we see so often in the Gospels. A rosary, as you admitted before, is a “merit” that one receives which earns some sort of grace in return.

“And the Jews and Gentiles mocked Christians for believing in things such as the Incarnation, Resurrection, Jesus’ miracles, etc.”


It’s sad to see you compare such things with the scripture. I’d say it’s close to the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, comparing the true miracles of God with people vomiting up flowers and getting to heaven on the basis of how many rosaries they say in a day.

“No, because you avoided the verses I posted in post 21 for instance. Typical.”


What’s typical is that you seem to be making some kind of an argument, but you won’t tell me what your point is, or what you are hoping to prove, or how you hope to prove it.

I suspect that you can’t.


89 posted on 07/27/2013 12:50:34 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

“What does this have to do with a scale up in heaven weighing your bad and good works against each other?”

Did you NOT read the passage? “whereas she put the rosary that he had always worn on the other scale, together with all the Rosaries that had been said because of his example. It was found that the Rosaries weighed more than his sins.”

It’s amazing how quickly Protestant anti-Catholics resort to intellectual dishonesty. Remember, “together with all the Rosaries that had been said because of his example.”

“It was the intercession of Mary that saved because of the Rosary.”

Grace. Mary interceded with her Son for a grace for the king.

“It’s sad to see you compare such things with the scripture.”

No, what is sad is how you apparently can’t even deal with the verses I posted.

“I suspect that you can’t.”

Your suspicions are irrelevant. My suspicions were confirmed a long time ago - and that’s why I won’t see a post from you dealing with the verses I posted.


100 posted on 07/27/2013 11:14:15 AM PDT by vladimir998
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