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To: aMorePerfectUnion

The Catholics had the Bible first. So what is the problem?


23 posted on 07/20/2013 7:27:47 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

“The Catholics had the Bible first. So what is the problem?”

Salvation, I’m not sure why you would even believe that, but go ahead.


28 posted on 07/20/2013 7:46:36 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. - Tacituss)
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The Catholics had the Bible first. So what is the problem?

The Jews had the Bible first. Jesus was a Jew, the Disciples were Jews and Paul was a Jew.

36 posted on 07/20/2013 8:05:22 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Sharknados bit my sister.)
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The Catholics had the Bible first. So what is the problem?

The problem is where did the Catholic Church come from, and from where did it get its authority to decide what books were to be in the Bible - BEFORE the Bible was compiled?

After all, the authority couldn't have come from the Bible, because it hadn't been compiled yet.

From the article: "...one must first remember that almighty God never handed anyone a complete Bible and said, "Here it is." Rather, over the centuries of salvation history, the Holy Spirit inspired the authors of Sacred Scripture to write down God's revelation to us. As time went on, the Church compiled these books to form a Canon — an authoritative set of Sacred Scripture — and declared it "God's Word.""

So it's fine once you have a Church that then draws its authority from Scriptures, but what about the beginning - where did the authority come to make the first Bible? Actually, it goes even deeper than that, because the actual act of creating the first Bible was the act of THROWING OUT scriptures that didn't fit the agendas of those who were editing what they wanted the Bible to be, so that they could base the Catholic Church on it.

Quite convenient. Especially since we know from history that none of those involved in this process had a political agenda, were power seekers, were treacherous, or were trying to hide true teachings of Jesus or God that might have gotten in their way. And how do we know this from history? Because the Church teaches that though there were human failings, Grace guided the creation of the Bible. And how does the Church justify that teaching? Why, because it's in the Bible!

Like I said, convenient. VERY convenient.

42 posted on 07/20/2013 8:19:41 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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“The Catholics had the Bible first. So what is the problem?”

Nonsense. Did “the Catholics” predate the Christian churches of Syria and the levant? No; the Christian Churches of Egypt?, No; the Christian Churches of Anatolia?, No; the Christian Churches of Greece?, No; which all were part of what we now refer to as the “Orthodox” churches!!! In fact, until the seventh century the majority of Christians in the world were part of the Orthodox churches and not the ROMAN Catholic church.


86 posted on 07/21/2013 8:55:22 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Salvation

The Catholics had the Bible first. So what is the problem?


Question.
Which Bible did they have?

Another question.
Did they publish the Bible for every one to read or did they believe it was just for chosen people to read?

Not trying to be anti catholic here, just looking for the facts.


90 posted on 07/21/2013 10:41:19 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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