Resignation Event En Masse 6/29, 7pm, SLC [Mormons becoming ex-Mormons]

ExMormon.org ^ | June 28, 2013 | Whatthejosh

[Colofornian]

June 29, 2013.

7:00 pm – open to the public.

Salt Lake City, Utah.

In June 2012, around over a hundred people showed up to support resignation from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (also known as the Mormon or LDS church). This year, they are doing it again. Former and current members of the LDS church will be marching on Ensign Peak at 7pm on June 29, 2013, in a mass resignation event from the LDS church.

This event means a lot to the people who are involved. Resigning from the church is a milestone for some, showing that they no longer want to be associated with the LDS church or its practices. Many people never resign who no longer believe. Those who do resign do it to make a statement, either to the church, themselves, or their families. For some, that statement is simply to stop the church from contacting them to return. For others, that statement is for themselves, marking that they have moved beyond church culture and church beliefs. And still, for others, that statement is about disagreement with church history or practices, such as the Evergreen rehabilitation program, the polygamous nature of both Joseph Smith and Brigham Young, and changing church doctrines.

For many who resign, Mormonism has been a culture and way of life. Leaving the church can be a traumatic experience for some, as those people adjust to a world “outside the church”. As an example, people who leave the LDS church may not experience their first coffee, tea, or alcoholic drink until they have left the church, which could be in their 30s, 40s, 50s, and 60s. Many people who stop believing in the church feel that they have to learn to live a new life.

Members can resign from the LDS church by sending an email to msr-confrec@ldschurch.org with their full name, date of birth, and membership number. Other information such as baptism date and their ward or branch can also be supplied. A letter can also be sent to Member Records, 50 E North Temple, Room 1372, SLC UT 84150-5310.

[ejonesie22]

Yes, really...

[Graybeard58]

Too bad being “good people” doesn’t count for much in knowing and following the truth. If being “good” was enough, Jesus didn’t have to die.

Yep, Jesus told us that only One was good, our Father in Heaven.

If being "good" were the qualifier to get to heaven, only our dogs would go there.

[Colofornian]

They can now get falling-down drunk, do drugs, drink coffee and tea, engage in unmarried sex, no more tithing, no more taking the Sacrament (communion) - they are free to do whatever they want - to heck with those commandments and rules. They obviously had no testimony in the first place.

Notice a few things about this Mormon perspective:

(1) It assumes the worst about ex-Mormons.

(2) And the "obviously had no testimony in the first place" commentary is a sweepingly wide catch-all judgmental pinned on them...by, in MOST cases, a complete stranger! (Yet Mormons claim these ex-Mormons were their spirit brothers & sisters in the pre-existence...and, yet... this is the way they treat their so-called "spirit siblings?")

[Greetings_Puny_Humans]

“They can now get falling-down drunk, do drugs, drink coffee and tea, engage in unmarried sex, no more tithing, no more taking the Sacrament (communion) - they are free to do whatever they want - to heck with those commandments and rules. They obviously had no testimony in the first place. It is interesting that they feel the need to make a show of it. “

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Teppe’s God-in-training fellow member of the LDS just let us know that ex-Mormons, many of whom become true Christians, are all drug addicts, booze drinkers, and other various grand sinners, who don’t want to follow the oh so wonderful “commandments and rules” of the LDS!

Isn’t the tolerance of the Mormon true believers just WONDERFUL?

[Elsie]

They can now get falling-down drunk, do drugs, drink coffee and tea, engage in unmarried sex, no more tithing, no more taking the Sacrament (communion) - they are free to do whatever they want - to heck with those commandments and rules.

Well; D13; were YOU ever a missionary for the LDS religious organization?

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The Rules

1. Learn and obey all missionary rules.
2. Keep your thoughts, words, and actions in harmony with the gospel message.
3. Read only books, magazines, and other material authorized by the Church.
4. Don't debate or argue.
5. Center your mind on your mission.
6. Dress conservatively. Elders: white shirts, conservative ties, and business suits. Sisters: conservative colors and skirts that cover your knees. No floor-length skirts or dresses.
7. Cut your hair regularly.
8. Keep your hair clean and neatly combed at all times in the approved style.
9. Be neat and clean.
10. Bathe frequently.
11. Use deodorant.
12. Polish your shoes.
13. Iron your shirt and business suit.
14. Arise at 6:30 A.M.
15. Study for 2 hours every morning.
16. Proselytize for 10 hours between 9:30 A.M. and 9:30 P.M.
17. Turn off your lights at 10:30 P.M.
18. Exercise regularly.
19. Write in your journal regularly.
20. Follow the "Missionary Gospel Study Program" (31157) for your personal study.
21. Regularly study the Missionary Guide and the Discussions.
22. Attend Sunday priesthood or Relief Society meetings, Sunday School, and sacrament meeting.
23. Attend the general session of Stake Conference.
24. Attend general conference broadcasts if available.
25. Avoid all other church meetings unless you have a special assignment or are brining an investigator.
26. Proselytize as much as possible on weekends and holidays because this is when you'll find people home.
27. End your preparation day at 6:00 P.M. and proselytize from 6:00 P.M. to 9:30 P.M.
28. Wear your missionary uniform in public on preparation day while not engaged in recreational activities.
29. Arise at 6:30 on preparation day and study for 2 hours from the approved books.
30. Take care of your physical preparation for the week on preparation day: wash your clothes, clean your apartment, wash your car, get your haircut, and shop for groceries.
31. Write to your parents every week on preparation day.
32. Write less frequently to your siblings, friends, and acquaintances.
33. Don't communicate with any friends or acquaintances that are within or close to your mission boundaries, except as a part of official mission business.
34. Plan safe, wholesome, and uplifting activities for preparation day.
35. Stay with your companion during all activities.
36. Do not go on road trips.
37. Do not leave your assigned area without permission
38. Do not watch television.
39. Do not view unauthorized videocassettes.
40. Do not listen to the radio.
41. Do not listen to unauthorized audiocassettes or CD’s.
42. Do not participate in musical groups.
43. Do not participate in athletic teams.
44. Do not sponsor athletic teams.
45. Do not engage in contact sports.
46. Do not engage in water sports.
47. Do not engage in winter sports.
48. Do not engage in motorcycling.
49. Do not engage in horseback riding.
50. Do not engage in mountain climbing.
51. Do not embark on a private boat.
52. Do not embark in a private airplane.
53. Do not handle firearms.
54. Do not handle explosives.
55. Do not swim.
56. Do not play full court basketball.
57. Do not play basketball in leagues.
58. Do not play basketball in tournaments.
59. You may play half-court basketball.
60. Never be alone.
61. Seek advice from your mission president if your companion is "having difficulties".
62. Be loyal to your companion.
63. Ask your mission president for help if your companion doesn’t obey the rules.
64. Pray with your companion every day.
65. Study with your companion every day.
66. Plan your work with your companion every day.
67. Take time at least once a week for companionship inventory.
68. Seek to be one in spirit and purpose and help each other succeed.
69. Always address your companion as Elder or Sister.
70. Sleep in the same bedroom as your companion.
71. Do not sleep in the same bed as your companion.
72. Do not arise before your companion.
73. Do not retire after your companion. (apparently, being together is more important than getting the correct amount of sleep that your unique body requires.)
74. Frequently study with your companion the Missionary Guide section on companions.
75. Never be alone with anyone of the opposite sex.
76. Never associate inappropriately with anyone of the opposite sex (conversely, they don't mention whether or not it is against the rules to associate inappropriately with anyone of the same sex).
77. Do not flirt.
78. Do not date.
79. Do not communicate via phone or letter with anyone of the opposite sex living within or near mission boundaries.
80. Do not visit a single or divorced person of the opposite sex unless accompanied by a couple or another adult member of your sex.
81. Try to teach single investigators in a member’s home or have missionaries of the same sex teach them.
82. Always follow the above rules, even if the situation seems harmless.
83. Use the commitment pattern to get referrals from members.
84. Keep your dinner visits with member briefs and during the customary dinner hour in the area.
85. Remember to say thank you to those who feed you.
86. Visit members and nonmembers only at appropriate times.
87. Do not counsel or give medical treatment.
88. Do not stay in the homes of people when they are on vacation.
89. Only write letters to family members and friends at home.
90. Do not telephone parents
91. Do not telephone relatives.
92. Do not telephone friends.
93. Do not telephone girlfriends.
94. Contact your mission president in case of an emergency.
95. Take problems and questions to your mission president.
96. Do not write to the President of the Church or to other General Authorities. Letters from missionaries to General Authorities are referred back to the mission president
97. Respect the customs, traditions, and property of the people who you are trying to convert.
98. Obey all mission rules.
99. Obey the laws of the land.
100. Do not get involved in politics.
101. Do not get involved in commercial activities.
102. Do not give any information about the area.
103. Respect the customs and cultures of those who you are trying to convert to your own customs and culture.
104. Respect the beliefs, practices, and sites of other religions.
105. Do not say or write anything bad about the political and cultural circumstances where you serve.
106. Do not become involved in adoption proceedings.
107. Do not suggest or encourage emigration. (This rule is a bit ironic, given the now-defunct doctrine of gathering the believers to Zion)
108. Be courteous.
109. Provide community service.
110. Do not provide community service that isn’t approved by your mission president.
111. Do not provide more than 4 hours a week of community service.
112. Do not provide community service during the evening, weekend or holidays—those are peek proselytizing times.
113. Your mission president must approve your housing.
114. Keep your housing unit clean.
115. Do not live with single or divorced people of the opposite sex.
116. Do not live where the spouse is frequently absent.
117. Your living unit must have a private bath and entrance.
118. You may occasionally fast for a special reason, but generally the monthly fast is sufficient.
119. Do not fast longer than 24 hours at a time.
120. Do not ask friends, relatives, and members to join in special fasts for investigators.
121. Maintain your health.
122. Eat a healthy diet.
123. Sleep from 10:30 to 6:30.
124. Follow the approved exercise program.
125. Keep your body, clothes, dishes, linens, towels and housing unit clean.
126. Dispose of your garbage properly and promptly.
127. Follow the safety rules for all of your stuff.
128. Seek medical care if you are in an accident or become sick.
129. Be immunized.
130. Spend your money only on things relating to your mission.
131. Budget your money carefully.
132. Keep a record of what you spend.
133. Do not spend more than your companion.
134. Do not loan money.
135. Do not borrow money.
136. Keep a reserve fund of $50 to $100 at all times for transfers.
137. Pay your bills before leaving an area.
138. Pay cash for all resale literature and supplies ordered from the mission office.
139. Do not waste money on souvenirs.
140. Do not waste money on unnecessary items.
141. Be a frugal photographer.
142. Do not accumulate excess baggage.
143. Obey custom laws and regulations.
144. Pay fast offerings each fast Sunday to the bishop or branch president where you serve.
145. Pay tithing on outside sources of income (i.e. interest) to your home bishop or branch president.
146. Evaluate your funds a few months before the end of your mission. If you have more than you need, ask that less be sent so that you can return home without excess money.
147. Do not drive without a license.
148. Drive only Church-owned vehicles.
149. Do not drive members’ cars.
150. Do not drive nonmembers’ cars.
151. Do not give rides to members or investigators in Church-owned cars.
152. Use cars only on approved mission business.
153. Use cars only within the assigned geographical area.
154. Be conscious of safety at all times.
155. Drive defensively.
156. Wear your seat belt.
157. Pray for the Lord’s protection while driving.
158. If your companion is driving, assist him or her.
159. Do not tamper with the vehicle’s odometer.
160. Know bicycle safety rules.
161. Use extreme caution on your bicycle.
162. Do not ride your bicycle after dark.
163. Do not ride your bicycle in heavy traffic.
164. Do not ride your bicycle in adverse weather conditions.
165. Go directly to your new area when transferred.
166. Find your new companion without delay when transferred.
167. Have a maximum of two suitcases and a briefcase.

[Elsie]

Anyway, while these people are leaving the Church, others will take their place.

Yup - you'll do the same some day.

You have a passion that Christ can use for truth.

When you finally get mad enough to check things for Yourself, and to look behind the curtain, you will find THOUSANDS of others that have followed the same path.

Feed the doubt that nags you.

That's the Hound of Heaven trying to get thru to you.

[Elsie]

Anyway, while these people are leaving the Church, others will take their place.

Not if we FI's have anything to do about it!

Besides; that's a BAD business model: high turnover in the ranks is COSTLY!

[Elsie]

Of course they are free to return but I have noticed that once a fake mormon leaves the Church, they become absolutely obsessed with justifying their choice.

That MEMO really sticks in one's mind; don't it!

[Elsie]

Can we still tease IT?

[svcw]

Sandy, have you received your TR yet? Just curious

[Utah Binger]

Yup, I really like that good beer I learned about while serving in Denmark and I am guilty of drinking the finest coffee in southern Utah. I do engage in married sex but I must say those Danish girls were very tempting back in the day.

I have given at least one million to charity that I manage but am still waiting for the refund of about $20,000 wasted on Mormonism. My Sacraments are fulfilled with a fine Zinfandel at dinner when we break bread. My prayers and progeny are visible every time my grandsons come to see me. And after discarding the first thirty years of guilt and religious entrapment, I am FREE!

Rules? What with the IRS and other idiots trying to govern us...don’t need more stinkin’ rules!

[Utah Binger]

BAD business model

Not only that it appears that when intelligent people with real honesty begin sorting it out they do not join some childish resignation party, they just quietly stop attending and possibly send in their letter.

In my opinion their replacements are in the third world or are welfare wannabes. Doubt very seriously that many high information types are joining anymore...unless there is money in it for themselves. (Cry baby Beck).

[svcw]

Well said

[ejonesie22]

The only ones left in the LDS in the US are the hardcore True Believers who are just in a very deep denial or the operator/handler types in it for self serving reasons, like Reid, Romney and some of these apologist...

That is the reason for all the push overseas and the rebranding of the LDS as Christian...

[Utah Binger]

The only ones left in the LDS in the US are the hardcore True Believers With their eyes glazed over.

[SZonian]

So let’s talk about what defines “mental”.

Is it someone who stalks and attacks people in the darkness?

Is it someone who maligns the character of others simply because their opinion is different than yours?

Is it someone who engages in devious and deceitful behavior in secret because they disagree on a topic?

How about accusing one of being a hypocrite only because they questioned another’s attempt to assassinate the character of another?

What say you 23? Are you willing to engage in the light or will you continue to stalk around in the dark?

[SZonian]

Same for me freedomlover.

Although, I do include all of the FI’s in my thanks for their persistence in telling the truth about the doctrine and theology of LDS.

[ForAmerica]

Man, cults love keeping tabs on people! I can’t imagine Jesus or the apostles doing that.

[SZonian]

"I guess I hit a nerve!"

You flatter yourself...I read somewhere that boasting about something isn't a real smart thing to do.

[SZonian]

"And all I ask for is a fair advantage!"

Interesting that you don't offer that same "wisdom" to others you deign as not being "men of God".