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To: mlizzy

When you call her the Mother of God, you are making her God the Father’s equal. She is not the Mother of God. God has no Mother. He is the Alpha and Omega, the Creator of mothers and fathers. She was merely a vassal and birth giver.

I didn’t realize the ten commandments said “do not take the Lord’s name in vain...and now Mary’s.” I would love to see you use Scripture to show how insulting Mary equated to insulting the Lord Jesus Christ, but most likely you will just counterattack rather than use a reasonable effort.

Ironically, Mary is also called the Queen of Heaven, which is also the name given Asherah (the Mother of the Gods) and Hera/Juno (the Mother of Gods).

False gods never die. They just change faces.


18 posted on 06/25/2013 12:11:38 PM PDT by thetallguy24
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To: thetallguy24
She is not the Mother of God.

Scripture contradicts you.

"And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?" Luke 1:43

God has no Mother.

God Incarnate does, just as Scripture teaches.

I would love to see you use Scripture to show how insulting Mary equated to insulting the Lord Jesus Christ

"For Moses said: Honor thy father and thy mother; and He that shall curse father or mother, dying let him die." Mark 7:10

Scripture is wasted on the obtuse just as St. Peter wrote.

"And account the longsuffering of our Lord, salvation; as also our most dear brother Paul, according to the wisdom given him, hath written to you: As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are certain things hard to be understood, which the unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, to their own destruction." 2 Peter 3:15-16

23 posted on 06/25/2013 12:23:16 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Electorate data confirms Resolute Conservative voted for Soetoro)
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To: thetallguy24
That's why I prefer the Eastern Orthodox preference for referring to her as the Theotokos, the God-bearer. In fairness though, she is Jesus' mother (the one who brought forth Jesus from her womb), and since Jesus is God the Son, that does technically make her the mother of God (the Son).

"Queen of Heaven" just creeps me out, though. She may be a good example for a believer to follow (she is, after all, the only solely-human being in the Apostles' Creed to be referenced favorably--the other one who gets a reference is Pontius Pilate), but so are all the saints (whether it's an Eastern Orthodox saint like St. Tikhon Zadonsky, a Western Catholic saint like St. Francis de Sales, or a Protestant saint like Catherine Booth or John Fletcher, Vicar of Madeley).

32 posted on 06/25/2013 12:34:04 PM PDT by The Grammarian
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To: thetallguy24

Are you saying that Jesus Christ, the second person of the Holy Trinity is not God?

You are very mistaken.

And Mary was his human mother!


82 posted on 06/25/2013 3:31:31 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: thetallguy24

Jesus was true God and true man.


83 posted on 06/25/2013 3:31:53 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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