Posted on 05/31/2013 4:24:04 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
"Michael Voris once again hits the nail on the head with this above video. The problem with America, the problem that will soon be its demise, is that it was founded on religious pluralism. That works up to a point, but once that point is reached, it starts to implode on itself.
That's because the inclination of human beings is to eventually take an argument to its final and most natural conclusion. For most people, this happens subconsciously. Their attitudes simply change over time, and more often than not, they are at a loss to explain why. For those of us who think for a living, contemplate and ponder, the reason is plain to see. When you accept the notion that religion really doesn't matter when it comes to important things in life (like who your leaders shall be for example), then it's just a small leap to the mindset that religion really doesn't matter in your own life either."
(Excerpt) Read more at catholicknight.blogspot.com ...
My view is that if you keep the power separated, and competing, you limit chance for mischief. Once one group gets to much, it will work to destroy the other powers.
The other view is that having a strong central authority makes change easier. There is less people to work through. Both have their merits.
Now, don't be obtuse ...
Careful now, the reasoning may be equilateral and not right.
Perhaps he was trying to be acute.
Obviously, if men were angles only the rules of geometry would be needed.
I'm pretty sure that Voris was one of the Catholic monarchist FReepers that got the ZOT. His crackpot disciples live on. Definitely one of the more-Catholic-than-the-Pope gang.
Perhaps he was trying to be acute.
Obviously, if men were angles only the rules of geometry would be needed.
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What if you live in a non-Euclidean world though, and parallel lines meet?
Michael Voris is a devout Catholic who really believes that they simply have listen more to the Pope and everything will be hunky-dory. The real problem is the hardness of the heart.
Luk_18:8 I tell you, he will give justice to them speedily. Nevertheless, when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on earth?"
And people wonder why Premillennial Protestants have so much antipathy towards the Papacy. What Voorhis wants, Christianity ruled by the Pope, is the very thing prophesied for the end time. A return to Papist tyranny. No thanks.
No Kidding!
Hard to believe Voris is a Vatican II “neo” Catholic.
The trouble with the likes of Voris and his Fromish fans around here, is this dreaming for return to Catholic Monarchy, indulged in while simultaneously condemning our Constitutional Republic form of government, ripping on it, up one side and down the other, is that doing so simply greases the skids for the "social justice" statists among their own church (and elsewhere) to steadily and surely tear down the Republic, replacing it with a form of Monarchy (like King Obama) which is the worst of possible outcomes, and will only worsen further if we cannot soon reverse the process.
Look at Venezuela. The fat King Chavez just died, and buried in the bosom of the Church but his crony was able to continue leveraging so-called social justice issues (long advocated by legions of Catholic priests) and jigger the voting enough to become the new "benevolent dictatorship", socialist quasi-king replacement.
Voris and his ilk won't get what they think they want, and all of us will be in increasing bondage of State.
The (so called) "Affordable Health Car Bill" is evidence. 3,400 pages of "law" followed by well in excess of 10,000 pages of code. The statists LOVE it. More than half of the Catholic vote supported it (with American bishops generally smiling at it), until they learned of some of it's provisions (which anyone but fools could have predicted would be included in it!) but by then it was too late...
When I posted this article I knew there would be the few anti-Catholic types to weigh in and disregard anything the article says and anything Michael Voris has to say. Such is the case for speaking the truth about Christianity.
Immigration destroyed America.
We’d all do better listening to what HarleyD had to say, than Voris.
My reply to the article was the longest, and most content-laden regarding Voris’ article of any that you were pinged to. Was there a reason you were not responding to it? Do you agree with his message that our country is doomed?
What a daft reasoning. America would fall if people give up the idea of liberty and prefer a granny state. Oh wait, most non-freepers already did that
Correct. Religious pluralism is fine if all religions are respectedrather than French Laicite where no religion is respected. Mono religious states are not possible and never have been. A diversity of thought is natural. The exception to the rule that multiculturalism works is if you put Islam into the mix.
I think I see what you are driving at. Ruled by prophets?
Though that may be desirable, if selling on that point, but delivering instead a form of new Sanhedrin bureaucracy interacting with some fantasy of "benevolent" Catholic Monarch, or simply by direct papal rule, no thanks.
Been there, done that, had the t-shirt to prove it, but it got burned at the stake along with the rest of me...
A monarchys not a bad idea - if it was you or me :) but in a real world a limited republic with local democracy us the best. By this I mean that small communities, say the size of a parish should be self governing in terms of everyone involved. Sadly most people don’t care or have no time. In my apartment block, only 10% bother taking part in block discussions which are once a month....anyway, govt at higher levels should be republican representatives of communities and should be modelled in the early us republic. I believe though, that the power of the president today should be curtailed, probably make a primeminister for domestic issues where he has to only work in consensus with the states, and a more external focussed president.
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