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1 posted on 05/24/2013 6:25:26 AM PDT by Gamecock
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The actual homily by Pope Francis does not even mention atheists!

Pope Francis: Suffering difficulties with patience and overcoming oppression with love

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Pope Francis: Suffering difficulties with patience and overcoming oppression with love



(Vatican Radio) “To suffer with patience and to overcome external and internal oppression with love.” That was the prayer of Pope Francis today at the Domus Sanctae Martae during Mass on the feast of Mary Help of Christians.

In his homily, Pope Francis requested two graces: “To endure with patience and to overcome with love.” These are “graces proper to a Christian.” “To suffer with patience,” he notes, “is not easy.” “It is not easy, whether the difficulties come from without, or are problems within the heart, the soul, internal problems.” But to suffer, he explained, is not simply to “bear with a difficulty.”:

“To suffer is to take the difficulty and to carry it with strength, so that the difficulty does not drag us down. To carry it with strength: this is a Christian virtue. Saint Paul says several times: Suffer [endure]. This means do not let ourselves be overcome by difficulties. This means that the Christian has the strength not to give up, to carry difficulties with strength.
Carry them, but carry them with strength. It is not easy, because discouragement comes, and one has the urge to give up and say, ‘Well, come on, we’ll do what we can but no more.’ But no, it is a grace to suffer. In difficulties, we must ask for [this grace], in difficulty.”

The other grace the Pope asks for is “to overcome with love”:

“There are many ways to win, but the grace that we request today is the grace of victory with love, through love. And this is not easy. When we have external enemies that make us suffer so much: it is not easy, to win with love. There is the desire to take revenge, to turn another against him ... Love: the meekness that Jesus taught us. And that is the victory! The Apostle John tells us in the first Reading: ‘This is our victory, our faith.’ Our faith is precisely this: believing in Jesus who taught us love and taught us to love everyone. And the proof that we are in love is when we pray for our enemies.”

To pray for enemies, for those who make us suffer, the Pope continued, “is not easy.” But we are “defeated Christians” if we do not forgive enemies, and if we do not pray for them. And “we find so many sad, discouraged Christians,” he exclaimed, because “they did not have this grace of enduring with patience and overcoming with love”:

“Therefore, we ask Our Lady to give us the grace to endure with patience and overcome with love. How many people – so many old men and women - have taken this path! And it is beautiful to see them: they have that beautiful countenance, that serene happiness. They do not say much, but have a patient heart, a heart filled with love.
They know what forgiveness of enemies is, they know what it is to pray for enemies. So many Christians are like that!”

The Mass was attended by employees of the Pontifical Council for Social Communications led by the president of the dicastery, Archbishop Claudio Maria Celli. And, on the Day of Prayer for the Church in China, Archbishop Savio Hon Tai-Fai, Secretary of the Congregation for the Evangelization of Peoples, and a group of priests, religious, seminarians and lay people from China also attended the ceremony. At the end of the prayers of the faithful, the Pope prayed: “For the noble Chinese people: May the Lord bless them and Our Lady keep them.” The Mass concluded with a hymn to the Virgin Mary in Chinese.




36 posted on 05/24/2013 7:30:12 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Gamecock

According to Eph. 1:4 and 2:8 & 9, I was not available to answer the call nor can I do enough to warrant my salvation! It is a gift, nothing I did earned that gift of God before the foundation of the world. I was not there to ask Him to choose me, only the choice of a sovereign God!


38 posted on 05/24/2013 7:39:22 AM PDT by ForAmerica (Texas Conservative Christian Black Man!)
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He said we have to work together. Aethists and others can do good things and all must try to get along for a common good.

He said that Jesus died for all men, not just a few.

He did not say that ALL men will be saved.

There is still that little matter of free will.


42 posted on 05/24/2013 7:54:22 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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CatholicDude
Pope Francis has good news for atheists. Jesus died and was raised for them as well. His redemptive embrace was for all, not just a chosen few.The choice to accept its reach is our own. The Holy Father was not teaching anything new. In fact, this hope that all who do not yet know God are not only capable of doing good - but will progress toward that knowledge of God by doing good - is ancient. The Church wants all men and women to be saved. Pope Francis calls us to love one another more clearly.

The Holy Father is full of surprises, born of true and faithful humility. On Wednesday he declared that all people, not just Catholics, are redeemed through Jesus, even atheists.

However, he did emphasize there was a catch. Those people must still do good. In fact, it is in doing good that they are led to the One who is the Source of all that is good. In essence he simply restated the hope of the Church that all come to know God, through His Son Jesus Christ.

Francis based his homily on the message of Christ to his disciples taken from the Gospel of Mark. Francis delivered his message by sharing a story of a Catholic who asked a priest if atheists were saved by Christ.

“They complain,” Francis said, “If he is not one of us, he cannot do good. If he is not of our party, he cannot do good.” He explained that Jesus corrected them, “Do not hinder him, he says, let him do good.”

The disciples, Pope Francis explained, “were a little intolerant,” closed off by the idea of possessing the truth, convinced that “those who do not have the truth, cannot do good.” “This was wrong... Jesus broadens the horizon.” Pope Francis said, “The root of this possibility of doing good - that we all have - is in creation.”

“Even them, everyone, we all have the duty to do good, Pope Francis said on Vatican Radio.

“Just do good” was his challenge, “and we’ll find a meeting point.”

Francis explained himself, “The Lord created us in His image and likeness, and we are the image of the Lord, and He does good and all of us have this commandment at heart, do good and do not do evil. All of us. ‘But, Father, this is not Catholic! He cannot do good.’ Yes, he can... “The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ, all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone! ‘Father, the atheists?’ Even the atheists. Everyone!” We must meet one another doing good. ‘But I don’t believe, Father, I am an atheist!’ But do good: we will meet one another there.”

Father James Martin, a Jesuit priest, told the Huffington Post, “Pope Francis is saying, more clearly than ever before, that Christ offered himself as a sacrifice for everyone. That’s always been a Christian belief. You can find St. Paul saying in the First Letter to Timothy that Jesus gave himself as a ‘ransom for all.’ But rarely do you hear it said by Catholics so forcefully, and with such evident joy. And in this era of religious controversies, it’s a timely reminder that God cannot be confined to our narrow categories.”

Pope Francis is trying to deepen our understanding of the fullness of Christ’s sacrifice and its reach, which extends to all men and women. We often fall into familiar ways of thinking that are closed. We divide ourselves into groups, forgetting that we are all children of God, identical, regardless of any divisions we establish for ourselves.We are also all called to the One who created us and, through His Son,is recreating us anew. He calls us to accept His salavation.

The Pastoral Constitution on the Church in the Modern World (Gaudium et Spes) contains an important explanation of the phenomena referred to as ‘Atheism’ (See, GS #17-22). It is a very large term and we have to first examine what is meant when it is embraced by an individual to best understand the effect of the claim.

The Catechism of the Catholic Church explains that “Since it rejects or denies the existence of God, atheism is a sin against the virtue of religion but the imputability of the offense can be significantly diminished in virtue of the intentions and the circumstances” (CCC#2125).

The Holy Father was not teaching anything new. In fact, this hope that all who do not yet know God are not only capable of doing good - but will progress toward that knowledge of God by doing good - is ancient. On Good Friday we all pray:

Let us pray also for those who do not believe in Christ,that, enlightened by the Holy Spirit,they, too, may enter on the way of salvation. Almighty ever-living God,grant to those who do not confess Christ that, by walking before you with a sincere heart, they may find the truth and that we ourselves, being constant in mutual love and striving to understand more fully the mystery of your life, may be made more perfect witnesses to your love in the world. Through Christ our Lord.

We are judged by a just God who will welcome us based on what we have done with what we knew. Those who do not know God will be judged on the good they have done and the values lived by, to paraphrase a quote oft attributed to the Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius.

However, the most loving thing we can do for all men and women is recognize that they too hunger for the God who created them and then help them to find Him as He is fully and completely revealed in his Son Jesus Christ and the Church. That includes recognizing the good that they do and joining with them in the work.

These latest comments are consistent with Pope Francis’ efforts to reach out to people of other faiths and of no faith at all. By emphasizing our common bonds, our Holy Father breaks down artificial barriers so that we may see, and love, one another


45 posted on 05/24/2013 7:59:16 AM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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Sorry, I should have known that the lamestream media would be a couple days late in attacking the Pope.

Here is the actual link: http://en.radiovaticana.va/news/2013/05/22/pope_at_mass:_culture_of_encounter_is_the_foundation_of_peace/en1-694445

46 posted on 05/24/2013 7:59:33 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Deuteronomy IV:19 & Malachi I:11


51 posted on 05/24/2013 8:08:06 AM PDT by onedoug
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There really are people that still don’t know Jesus’ name and still do his will. I have met these people. And they are everywhere. Many closed communities have no idea- not a clue. They are still looking.

As Jesus said, God’ Word is written on the hearts of all men- you just have to listen. Some of them are listening.

If they act in accordance with that what is given by God, how could Jesus fault them for not knowing who he is. And more importantly- why would he even care.

If you grow crops, you are a Farmer. If you grow crops, and don’t know the word ‘Farmer’, you are still growing crops. You are still doing the same thing for the same reasons.


52 posted on 05/24/2013 8:14:08 AM PDT by JFoobar
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Why does Michael Horton STILL lie about these things?

I remember when he used to run debate audio on his radio program - with any of the Catholic side from the recorded debate. He couldn’t run that because then all of his duped minions would know he lost the debate. What a pathetic loser.


53 posted on 05/24/2013 8:15:07 AM PDT by vladimir998
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Wow, I need to read this again.


54 posted on 05/24/2013 8:25:28 AM PDT by strongbow
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I got saved when I was reading the Douay-Rheims Bible!

P.S. ,,, and NOT when I got infant-baptized, communioned or confirmed.

1 Peter 1:23 "Being born again not of corruptible seed, but incorruptible, by the word of God who liveth and remaineth for ever."

Douay-Rheims 1899

63 posted on 05/24/2013 10:42:50 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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I luv these threads of Paul and whatshername Crouch Internet snake handling theologians!


81 posted on 05/24/2013 6:42:22 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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A horribly written article taking MOST of what Pope Francis said out of context.

http://www.ncregister.com/blog/jimmy-akin/did-pope-francis-say-that-atheists-can-get-to-heaven-by-good-works

104 posted on 05/25/2013 8:29:51 AM PDT by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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Correct me if I am wrong, but the doctrine of the Christian Church (no matter the denomination) is Salvation through Faith. Not that it is my problem, but if atheists don’t have any faith, how can they be saved?


112 posted on 05/26/2013 7:37:28 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it gettingthe so hot?)
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