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1 posted on 04/29/2013 6:50:30 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

Luther was a pig


2 posted on 04/29/2013 6:52:51 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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Arrest all the Lutherans.


3 posted on 04/29/2013 6:56:04 AM PDT by DManA
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Yes, Christians have caused trouble for Jews for centuries upon centuries. The problem Jews face now, though, is from Muslims, atheists and university professors.


4 posted on 04/29/2013 7:03:42 AM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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Once again, current Moslem hatreds are compared to beliefs of Christians over 500 years ago in the moral equivalency game.


5 posted on 04/29/2013 7:11:57 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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A lot of Jews are anti-Judaism.


7 posted on 04/29/2013 7:13:53 AM PDT by informavoracious (The ancient Greeks and Romans thought they were on the "right side of history.")
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The washington post(holes)...trying to tell the country that lost men and women, grandparents and others in the war with Hitler, that we hate Jews.

What a disgraceful bunch of instigators the WP is...

Divide and concur is what fascist do...just like you,wapo!

8 posted on 04/29/2013 7:15:21 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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Gentlemen:

While I received with much satisfaction your address replete with expressions of esteem, I rejoice in the opportunity of assuring you that I shall always retain grateful remembrance of the cordial welcome I experienced on my visit to Newport from all classes of citizens.

The reflection on the days of difficulty and danger which are past is rendered the more sweet from a consciousness that they are succeeded by days of uncommon prosperity and security.

If we have wisdom to make the best use of the advantages with which we are now favored, we cannot fail, under the just administration of a good government, to become a great and happy people.

The citizens of the United States of America have a right to applaud themselves for having given to mankind examples of an enlarged and liberal policy—a policy worthy of imitation. All possess alike liberty of conscience and immunities of citizenship.

It is now no more that toleration is spoken of as if it were the indulgence of one class of people that another enjoyed the exercise of their inherent natural rights, for, happily, the Government of the United States, which gives to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance, requires only that they who live under its protection should demean themselves as good citizens in giving it on all occasions their effectual support.

It would be inconsistent with the frankness of my character not to avow that I am pleased with your favorable opinion of my administration and fervent wishes for my felicity.

May the children of the stock of Abraham who dwell in this land continue to merit and enjoy the good will of the other inhabitants—while every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and fig tree and there shall be none to make him afraid.

May the father of all mercies scatter light, and not darkness, upon our paths, and make us all in our several vocations useful here, and in His own due time and way everlastingly happy.

G. Washington


10 posted on 04/29/2013 7:22:15 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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Luther was probably thinking of the Jewish theocracy in place around the time of Jesus in comparing the Catholic Church to the Jews? Certainly the Jews in Luther’s time had no organizational structure at all, a trait that served us well except when it really really didn’t.


11 posted on 04/29/2013 7:29:04 AM PDT by babble-on
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I am a CHRISTIAN and I will stand with Israel and my Jewish brothers and sisters whenever they need me to.

LLS


12 posted on 04/29/2013 8:42:34 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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That was then and this is now. The Jews in Israel do not fear terrorism from the Christian Arabs living there. They do not have any expectation of rockets being fired at them from the Christians in Lebanon. The Jews in France are not in fear of any hostile actions from the Catholics there. Why doesn’t the author address the problems regarding the current persecutors of the Jewish people? As far as I know, some of the strongest supporters of the Jews tend to be conservative Protestants. I know first-hand that conservative Mormons tend to be very supportive as well. And conservative Catholics...Pope Pius XII is starting to receive due recognition for his role in saving European Jews during World War II. The current reality regarding who are friends and who are enemies to the Jews, does not coincide with the author’s desired narrative.


13 posted on 04/29/2013 8:52:37 AM PDT by Texan Tory
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More anti-Christian propoganda. It was primarily the evangelical Christian “West” that rescued millions of Jews from the Nazi extermination plans. The “West” welcomed Jews with open arms also. We were fortunate to get many Jewish scientists who defected to the West.

Real Christianity was never anti-Judiasm. During the times when the New Testament was written, Christianity was considered one of may Jewish sects. Jewish Christians retained their Jewish identities and customs. Gentile converts to Christianity were not required to convert to Judiasm. Today we have this weird amalgamation of carry-over Judiased Christianity which tries to apply Jewish ceremonial law to Gentile Christians while simulteously disallowing Jewish Christians from keeping their Jewish heritage. We also split Christianity into ethnic groups which was unthinkable in the New Testament era.

Rather, most of the historical persecution was directed by Jewish leaders toward both Christ and His followers. Jewish leaders did everything in their power to stop the spread of Christianity both among Jews and Gentiles in the first century.

Today’s so-called “Jews” (mostly secular) continue to attack Christianity, whether it is the less open bigotry of Jews who run things in Hollywood, or the more direct assaults coming from groups like the ACLU, or the “Jews” in Obama’s administration. For yet another example, see...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3013607/posts#11


14 posted on 04/29/2013 8:56:56 AM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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European antisemitism is alive and well, but that is one among many things which makes Europe very different from America. Jews have found a very comfortable home on this side of the Atlantic. And while pockets of prejudice against Jews still exist here it is nothing like the rabid knee jerk hatred that surfaces after a few beers on a European, like stink sweat on a hot muggy day.

This is related to the country being founded by religious sectarians who themselves suffered enormous prejudice from the established churches and governing elites and were intent on creating a safe haven for dissenters of all stripes. Among most Protestant sects the emphasis on Biblical veracity and scholorship (both books) entirely alters the status of the Jews compared to pre-Reformation Church dogma. They also thrived in Protestant Holland and were welcomed back into Britain by Cromwell after the English Civil War. In the last century the Roman Catholic Church and other "established" Christian churches have also shed much if not all of their institutional antisemitism.

The broad statement that the Jews suffered under "Christianity" is the kind of half truth which Leftist Jews, many of whom are themselves Jewish in name and bloodline only, use to demonize all believing Christians of any type. It reeks of a divisive and deceptive political agenda on the part of the writer.

17 posted on 04/29/2013 9:56:06 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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This article is hitting home at a time when I need clarity. I’m a member of a Lutheran church and our new associate pastor has invited pro-Palistine speakers, and shares posts from the “Activists Around the World for Palistine” facebook page. While I can see her point of view on the plight of the Arab-Christians in the area, I feel the rest is anti Isreal and realy anti American. I want to call her out on her “agenda” but I don’t want to destroy our church either.


18 posted on 04/29/2013 12:29:45 PM PDT by bayoung18
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